The pros of an iMac???

Cricri

I said main reason, not only reason. I also said "most of the people", not "all the people".

I also said "Mac is the best: again, very arguable and subjective", and that "I used a Mac once and hated it because it didn't give me full control of my machine as Windows and Linux does", and therefore didn't agree with the post I quoted that stated that Mac were the best as a fact without providing any material to backup this statement.

welshdent

Cricri wrote: »

Clearly biased.

you said it.

To summarise I suspect people buy apple products because they like them. Is that an abhorent thought?? People LIKE the user experience. I have a nexus one and an Iphone4. I love them both for their own qualities. I have linux machines, windows machines and a mac book. I like the mac book. It has served me FAR better than any windows machine I have used. It is certainly no status symbol. Its now a tatty bashed about laptop .... but it works. I also like ubuntu and mint but alas I can not run my iphone off there. You dont like it ... fine.

Cricri

when someone says "this is better" when it is a mater of opinion, yes, it is biased. It's not an opinion, it is an observation.

So someone says "Mac are the best full stop", noone challenges it. I say "wow, hang on, mostly, personally, it's subjective", and everyone challenges me?

BackOnTrack

Cricri wrote: »

So someone says "Mac are the best full stop", noone challenges it. I say "wow, hang on, mostly, personally, it's subjective", and everyone challenges me?

Thats iPhans for you, you should never challenge the cult of Jobs:rotfl:

kabayiri

shegirl wrote: »

He doesn't actually play games much at all on his computers!

He's severely autistic but gifted in computers and they are the way he kinda interacts and shows his abilities in other areas too.He does alsorts from toying with animation,creating 'music' and sound experimentation,programming,using packages to create his own moving cursors,designing things,doing allsorts with powerpoint and can strangely write paragraphs of info etc whereas he can't seem to get himself to do it by hand! (the manual he created on using Windows was brill!!!Was like Windows for Dummies lol)

Heck, your child has drive in him, which is a lot more than I see in some other youngsters today, my 2 included!

I think it's important to work out what you think he will get out of the iMac experience, and judge its value on that.

You talk about music composition. Has he tried Hydrogen under Ubuntu (which is just fantastic). Couple that with something like Jokosher or LMMS for composition; a decent usb-midi interface; and you open up a whole range of possibilities.

The whole iMac/PC/Linux debate on here is a red herring, because it's not like you will dump your other computers, is it?

shegirl

kabayiri wrote: »

Heck, your child has drive in him, which is a lot more than I see in some other youngsters today, my 2 included!

I think it's important to work out what you think he will get out of the iMac experience, and judge its value on that.

You talk about music composition. Has he tried Hydrogen under Ubuntu (which is just fantastic). Couple that with something like Jokosher or LMMS for composition; a decent usb-midi interface; and you open up a whole range of possibilities.

The whole iMac/PC/Linux debate on here is a red herring, because it's not like you will dump your other computers, is it?

Probably not lol I think he'll want to keep them and use them occasionally or for different things (or just keep them for the sake of it!!!)!

patman99

Macs are so pricey because they use high-spec kit. My son bought his iMac nearly 2 years ago, and it was fitted with an ATi Radeon HD4570 graphics card. At the time the same card for PC's was £275. Apple use the highest-spec LCD panels too, so when you add the costs up, a Mac is cheaper than building a PC to the same grade.

Mac OSX is also then only O/S that runs in 64 bit mode on a 32 bit cpu. As it is built on BSD Linux, it is also very stable. Just think how many versions of Windows have been released along with SP's in comparison to OS X.

BackOnTrack

patman99 wrote: »

Macs are so pricey because they use high-spec kit.

Nonsense. The LCD screen is high quality but that is about it.

Currently for an iMac costing over a thousand quid you get an intel 3 GHz i3 processor and an ATI Radeon HD 4670 graphics card with 256MB of ram.

High spec kit my bum. Overpriced average hardware is more like it.

You can get a far higher spec PC with windows for the same money.

BackOnTrack

patman99 wrote: »

Mac OSX is also then only O/S that runs in 64 bit mode on a 32 bit cpu. As it is built on BSD Linux, it is also very stable. Just think how many versions of Windows have been released along with SP's in comparison to OS X.

Also very wrong. It OSX can be either 64 bit or 32 bit but if you have a 32 bit processor it's running in 32 bit mode.

There is no such thing as BSD Linux, OSX is posix compliant and parts of netBSD are used in OSX but most OSs are stable these days, even Windows Vista was stable I've had boxes that could happily go over a month without a reboot.

BackOnTrack

patman99 wrote: »

Just think how many versions of Windows have been released along with SP's in comparison to OS X.

Windows XP Sp1, 2 & 3
Vista SP 1 & 2
Windows 7 SP 1

As I recall there have been 7 or 8 version of OSX in the same period.