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seven-day-weekend

Are thy shouting at you, or are they just training you in how to do the job and correcting you if you do something wrong?

Svenena

Legally your employers can decide when you take your holidays - it's not up to you. Most will offer some flexibility around this, but they don't have to. If they're making you take it because it's the end of the leave year and you'll lose it if not, I'd be grateful - the last place I worked, I wasn't told that the leave year ended a couple of months after I started, so I lost what I'd accrued.

I'm sorry you're not enjoying it, but not all jobs are enjoyable. Just being in employment will help you get another job in the future, as you're keeping your skills up to date, and it shows you've made the effort to get a job during difficult times. I think you should stick with it until you find something else.

If you're not happy with how things are going, discuss it. If it's your line manager that you feel is criticising you, sit down with them and say something like, I feel like you might not be that happy with my performance, is there anyway to improve it, I'm keen to do my best. They will appreciate that you're making the effort, and maybe lay off a bit, whilst providing you extra help. If you really don't feel you can't do that, just let the comments and looks roll over you and don't take them personally - some people just aren't very nice.

dark_lady

No one would expect a dog or a cat to poo or wee to order or to a timetable yet human beings are expected too!!! It will be very interesting to see what happens in workplaces like this when some people are forced off ESA onto JSA and into these types of jobs.
Especially people who have toilet issues like IBS, Crohns,Coeliac disease etc etc.

Wils35

AnxiousMum wrote: »

In all honesty, do most people show up to start work the minute the clock starts ticking? Surely you show up to work, and use your own time to hang your coat, get your coffee and you should be sitting at your place of work ready to commence work the minute the doors are open? That's not the employer expecting you to start 20 mins early, that's you being prepared to start work at the time you are supposed to start!

As for finishing at the end of the day, if the Dr's are behind schedule and there are still patients in the surgery, then you may be expected to stay until they are gone. Have you discussed logging this time and taking time in lieu rather than being paid?

No i started work at half 8 and always clocked in at 8:28, sounds like you still live in the 80's!

If i clocked in at 8:31 then they would take 15 mins from my wages, if i was 1 minute early would they add 15 mins to my wages, NO so why on earth would i go in to work 20 mins early???

If your lunch break was at 11:30 would you stop work at 11:10 to 'unhang' your coat to be 'prepared' to leave for 11:30?

Do you seriously love work that much you cant wait to get there?

Wils35

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

In my last job I worked flexitime but was expected to be ready to face customers by 0830 at the latest if I was Duty Officer. This meant I had to be in BEFORE 0830 so that I could be ready to be on the desk at 0830.

I agree with this but i clocked in to work at 8:28 and was ALWAYS ready to start at 8:30 as it takes me what 5 secs max to remove my coat. I could understand work moaning if you started working at 8:31 though.

If at 1700 thre was still a customer waiting to be seen, I saw them, I didn't just leave them and go home.

This is just good customer service and would be expected in any customer-facing environment.

As for asking to go to the loo, the same applies, if you are the receptionist you can't just leave it with no cover. This applies in many jobs. My son just can't walk away from his till at Morrisons, my husband could not just leave his classroom. They either have to get cover or wait until their break (and waiting for their break would be deemed preferable). Again, this is all quite usual. If you only work a four-hour shift you should not really need to go to the loo during it (unless you have a disability in this aspect).

Regardless of how many hours you work there, if you need the toilet then you need to go. Not you should not really be needing to go, like she is going to know when she needs the toilet! Thats just a joke and i personally wouldnt want to work for a company like that.


As for being shouted at, then if it is other staff that are shouting at you, then you need to see your line manager about this and sort it out. If it is patients then you need training in how to deal with it.

Four weeks is not very long in a job, I would give it more time, and ask for further training and ask your line manager about any difficulties that you are having.

Agreed with the rest though.

seven-day-weekend

dark_lady wrote: »

No one would expect a dog or a cat to poo or wee to order or to a timetable yet human beings are expected too!!! It will be very interesting to see what happens in workplaces like this when some people are forced off ESA onto JSA and into these types of jobs.
Especially people who have toilet issues like IBS, Crohns,Coeliac disease etc etc.

In which case they would come under the Disability laws and provision would be made for their condition.

People without such conditions can usually mange a few hours without needing the loo, surely?

Wils35

dark_lady wrote: »

No one would expect a dog or a cat to poo or wee to order or to a timetable yet human beings are expected too!!! It will be very interesting to see what happens in workplaces like this when some people are forced off ESA onto JSA and into these types of jobs.
Especially people who have toilet issues like IBS, Crohns,Coeliac disease etc etc.

Perfect, You took the words right out my mouth! :T

Wils35

Sixer wrote: »

OP: what hours do you work? Are you given breaks during your working hours and are they paid? Whatever other posters have said here on the subject of your unhappiness at work, it's illegal to pay you less than NMW. Add up the hours you have spent at your desk (not inside the building) over a week or over several weeks. Don't include the time you've spent on tea/lunch breaks. If that adds up to less than NMW per hour, then the surgery is breaking the law. You will need to see the most senior person possible at the practice and present your case. They will have to up the wages or stop the unpaid overtime and allow you to clock the hours you actually work.

Exactly what i would do as well, well said.

Oldernotwiser

Wils35 wrote: »

No i started work at half 8 and always clocked in at 8:28, sounds like you still live in the 80's!

If i clocked in at 8:31 then they would take 15 mins from my wages, if i was 1 minute early would they add 15 mins to my wages, NO so why on earth would i go in to work 20 mins early???

If your lunch break was at 11:30 would you stop work at 11:10 to 'unhang' your coat to be 'prepared' to leave for 11:30?

Do you seriously love work that much you cant wait to get there?

There's a big difference between the sort of work where you clock on and admin or professional work.

Oldernotwiser

dark_lady wrote: »

No one would expect a dog or a cat to poo or wee to order

You've obviously never had a well trained dog who's trained to relieve itself on command.

Healthy adults aren't children who have to pop to the loo all the time; it's called self control.