I need to moan about my doughter's school.

jellyhead

maybe they were told to empty out their flasks because it was the end of half term and some kids will leave them behind with stagnating water inside - ick! but even if the teacher was having a bad time (i volunteer in school and have seen PMS in teachers that makes the adults tremble, let alone the kids) why reduce a normally well behaved girl to tears by shouting? if the child doesn't ever get told off why be so horrible to her? it's not as if she's been driving the teacher insane all day. i've known teachers who don't raise their voices no matter what's going on around them and i have to say they have the best behaved classes, even the children with behavioural problems respond better to a teacher that doesn't yell. my little boy hated reception because the teacher was a shouter, even though it was never him getting shouted at he'd try to hide under the table with his hands over his ears, just wasn't used to the noise of someone yelling angrily. don't student teachers get taught that there are better ways to deal with situations than screaming at children? if not, they should.

tightgit_2

hilstep2000 wrote:

Yes, Shannon's teacher was in the wrong, but come and do our job first, then you can complain!

This is a ridiculous thing to say.
You don't need to do someone else's job to know if they are doing it well or not. I know several teachers and teaching assistants and used to help out at the school for several years. Of course people should complain if they are not happy with the way their children are treated. If people do not like their jobs they should try their best to get a different one and not take it out on innocent people.

Spendless

hilstep2000 wrote:

I am a Teaching Assistant, and our kids are only allowed water, if we find juice, we empty it out, refill with water, and quietly inform the parent after school.

Do you mind me asking how you find juice? Are the bottles randomly checked?

My own son can often get the wrong end of the stick and having gone through playgroups, private nursery and school nursery where only milk or water was allowed, if he'd told me he could have juice i'd have checked with his teacher.
(this isn't a criticism of the OP who has said another child has confirmed what the teacher said- just i would double check for me cos i know son can get story wrong).

I posted earlier about my friend who knowing that the school only allows water is sending in juice - i hope if her daughter gets found out then the school speaks to her mum since she is the one sending juice in.

jellyhead

all they need to say to the child is that juice is against the rules and they'll let the parents know after school, there's no need to be horrid to the child when its the parent at fault.

if as a parent you're worried about your child being jealous that others are allowed to break the rules you could always have a quiet word with the teacher about it and ask if it's okay for your child to break the rules too, only you wanted to check beforehand just to make sure your child doesn't get shouted at when juice is found, lol!

i tried some of that new shape flavoured water last week, it's gorgeous! i bought apple flavour and pineapple flavour (i've never had pineapple water before, i'm easily pleased lol!). i think you can also get flavoured danone water, the one with added calcium.

Spendless

jellyhead wrote:

if as a parent you're worried about your child being jealous that others are allowed to break the rules you could always have a quiet word with the teacher about it and ask if it's okay for your child to break the rules too, only you wanted to check beforehand just to make sure your child doesn't get shouted at when juice is found, lol!

son isn't jealous - cos i've not told him .lol he'd be bound to grass her up. This was something i mentioned to friend when she admitted to sending juice, what would happen if her daughter told a classmate who then told teacher, and she said her daughter knew not to say anything.

i couldn't tell my son anything like that cos he'd go straight ahead and tell !

As much as i don't agree with what friend has done i wouldn't tell on her. My own son not a water lover at home accepted it was water or nothing at school.

filigree_2

hilstep2000 wrote:

Yes, Shannon's teacher was in the wrong, but come and do our job first, then you can complain!

I've done your job, and I got £6.35 an hour for it so I never considered it to be unpaid childminding. If the parents need full-time daycare they are working, paying taxes and council tax and thereby paying your wages.

I know exactly how awful some of them can be but I'd be ashamed of myself if I reduced a little girl to tears over something so flaming ridiculous as Ribena. Thank goodness she didn't do something really naughty!

aeuerby: I had lots of problems with communication because my son has delayed language abilities. His teachers just don't seem to understand that he can't carry verbal messages and that he MUST have written notes, or they should tell me directly. It's a right pain getting it through to a new teacher every year, I can tell you. Working as a classroom assistant helped me enormously with understanding mysterious school rules! If you have the time, perhaps you could get involved with the PTA or even become a parent governor, then you would have a closer relationship with the teaching body. It's just a suggestion, it worked for me anyway.

System

I am quite looking forward to when my lot leave school altogether. In 4 months i have had an incident where my son was pinned up the wall by a teacher (the fact he is a little sod is the only thing that stopped me reporting this well respected teacher to the police). Just a week before they broke up for christmas i was told off by the headmistress at the primary school for waiting for my son at the school crossing (which incidently is right outside the school gate). Its safer than waiting for him on the playground cause there are cars allowed on. it.

jellyhead

just being nosey, how old is this son who was pinned against a wall?

aeuerby

Firstly I have been into school to help out with sewing for a full term. I know how difficult some of the children in Shannon's class can be. I also feel that they are not delt with properly as all the "punishments" that are delt out do not seem to make a difference to behaviour. Eg. every time one of these children is "naughty" they miss a minute off their playtime. This child misses some part of playtime every day and doesn't seem to mind. As to other punishments, I don't know but maybe the head and parents could get more involved.

Another example, a child was talking through registration, the teacher made him stand at the desk where he fidgeted and smirked and giggled all the way through. The teacher did nothing.

As to filigree's suggestion that I join the PTA or Governors. The PTA in our school is purely for fund raising and has no influence about other school matters.

The Governors. My husband was on the board last year. We got an insight into how the school works but also an insight into how 1 governor cannot change anything in the running of the school. The head is in charge and the governors are there to support him. He did however discover that the head and governors are very scared of official complaints.

Anyway, we had a love letter sent home with Shannon yesterday, the head had spoken to her teacher.
Not surprisingly the teacher is denying that she told the children that juice was ok and that someone had misunderstood a newsletter that was sent out. This is not true but I cannot prove otherwise yet.

She is also denying that she shouted at Shannon but spoke in a normal voice and Shannon was only upset because she was embarrassed. Maybe an element of truth in the embarrassed bit (who wouldn't be emarrased being shouted at in front of the class?) but certainly not why Shannon was distraught. There are other children who have confirmed that she was shouted at.

I have also observed the classroom assistants at this school. As with everything some are very good, some are just downright rude and disrespectful both to the children and the parents (I shall also start pointing this out when I come across it again!).
How can these individuals command respect from the children if they don't give it themselves? I agree with the comment that teachers who very rarely shout and respect the children are very much liked by the children and very rarely have any problems with the "troublemakers"

So we will see what happens in the future. We are looking into the flavoured water later today. In the meantime Shannon has refused to take a drink today and didn't drink anything apart from out her lunch box yesterday.

Thanks for all your comments.

Angela.

Glad

I remember my parents being called in to school to be told I had been caught kissing a boy in the schoolyard and this could not be allowed, I'd already had a telling off,




I was 6 :rolleyes: