How much do you live on per month?

BoroPhil

oh and internet is definitely a necessity, particularly if you are genuinely job-seeking

snookey

People really need to stop reading the propaganda that the goverment spews out. Most people on benefits are not living a life of luxary and most would prefer to work. Better education of our young people and decent wages are the way forward,
The gap between rich and poor is wider than ever and the goverment would sooner pick on those who can not stand up for themselves. Think about it the rich educated know the loop holes to avoid tax they also know their rights.
Turning the people against one another over benefits is what this goverment want. While we are all tearing at each other the rich are getting richer and we are getting poorer. Soon there will be no benefits for anyone and we will be back to the 1900s.

BoroPhil

snookey wrote: »

People really need to stop reading the propaganda that the goverment spews out. Most people on benefits are not living a life of luxary and most would prefer to work. Better education of our young people and decent wages are the way forward,
The gap between rich and poor is wider than ever and the goverment would sooner pick on those who can not stand up for themselves. Think about it the rich educated know the loop holes to avoid tax they also know their rights.
Turning the people against one another over benefits is what this goverment want. While we are all tearing at each other the rich are getting richer and we are getting poorer. Soon there will be no benefits for anyone and we will be back to the 1900s.

Agreed, a good starter would be to make the minimum wage half-way decent and actually make it an incentive for people to go out and work

Lucy1010

snookey wrote: »

People really need to stop reading the propaganda that the goverment spews out. Most people on benefits are not living a life of luxary and most would prefer to work. Better education of our young people and decent wages are the way forward,
The gap between rich and poor is wider than ever and the goverment would sooner pick on those who can not stand up for themselves. Think about it the rich educated know the loop holes to avoid tax they also know their rights.
Turning the people against one another over benefits is what this goverment want. While we are all tearing at each other the rich are getting richer and we are getting poorer. Soon there will be no benefits for anyone and we will be back to the 1900s.

I am actually fighting for those on this thread who work very HARD yet have practically nothing to eat but sardines on toast. The government have failed these people in comparison to young uneducated girls, pregnant at 16, awarded shiny new homes with no expenditure to think of... I am not fed propaganda, I see it with my own eyes .... everyday.

BoroPhil

Lucy1010 wrote: »

I am actually fighting for those on this thread who work very HARD yet have practically nothing to eat but sardines on toast. The government have failed these people in comparison to young uneducated girls, pregnant at 16, awarded shiny new homes with no expenditure to think of... I am not fed propaganda, I see it with my own eyes .... everyday.

so what should happen to 'young uneducated girls, pregnant at 16', out of interest? and do they really all get shiny new homes?

Lucy1010

BoroPhil wrote: »

so what should happen to 'young uneducated girls, pregnant at 16', out of interest? and do they really all get shiny new homes?

It's not what should happen to them, it's how we prevent these situations from happening in the first place... and yes the majority of pregnant teenagers are awarded shiny new homes (for free!)

Tuning into an episode of Jeremy Kyle on a day off work (regrettably) is sufficient for one to recognise just how deluded this country has become.

Excuse me for having an opinion but as a hard working tax payer, I resent paying for the unemployed cider drinking wasters, loitering outside pubs all day long, impregnating vulnerable teenage girls, who then go onto be supported by the welfare (i.e my tax deductions)

I rest my case.

snookey

In our society even those young uneducated girls need a roof over their heads. Im afraid Lucy you are misguided if you think that thease girls are all given shiney new homes. Again your feeding into the propaganda. I worked with young mothers who were lucky if they had a hostel place let alone a new home.
I agree that people who work hard should be given a decent standered of living but dont blame the young mothers,disabled and immigrants for those peoples standered of living. In a rich country like ours nobody should be struggling.
The Thatcher years saw housing stock sold off. Houses were not being replaced. The North of the country were ignored whilst the South prosphered. Education for the poor in the 80s was distrupted by strikes in schools leaving a generation without a decent education. We are seeing the results now as that generations children are growing up.
There are few jobs for uneducated people. Factories have gone, mining gone and jobs that are out there are poorly paid.
We have a system in this country where wages are topped up by benefits. We need decent pay for everyone so we dont need benefits to top the wage up.
Lucy blaming those on benefits is not the way to go. Getting the goverment to stop tax evasion,having a two tier education system, charging for further education and the rich getting richer on the backs of the poor is the way to go.

BoroPhil

Lucy1010 wrote: »

It's not what should happen to them, it's how we prevent these situations from happening in the first place... and yes the majority of pregnant teenagers are awarded shiny new homes (for free!)

Tuning into an episode of Jeremy Kyle on a day off work (regrettably) is sufficient for one to recognise just how deluded this country has become.

Excuse me for having an opinion but as a hard working tax payer, I resent paying for the unemployed cider drinking wasters, loitering outside pubs all day long, impregnating vulnerable teenage girls, who then go onto be supported by the welfare (i.e my tax deductions)

I rest my case.

I really wouldn't base my opinions on what you see on Jeremy Kyle

snookey

Jeremy Kyle feeds on the vunrable. He is a bully.

snookey

Lucy having an opinion is great but nothing is ever black and white. Im sure if you went to your council and found out the true figures of young unemployed mothers housed you would change your mind.
As for people who you term as wasters have you taken the time to talk with them and find out the facts of why they hang around drinking. Society has let down young people and many have come from homes where they were neglected and left to fend for themselves. How then can they be expected to be decent law abiding citizens when nobody has shown them right from wrong.