Indicating and roundabouts.......what's your policy?

alastairq

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Yeah, BSM lol

says it all, I'm afraid...they run a mile from military contracts these days....much financial finger burning...

as I said, if the circumstances are 'right' on a test, then misconceptions are only encouraged.....

However...if we are talking 'mini roundabouts'...which share similar 'rules' but really are very different..then, what you were 'taught' actually should apply.....for the simple reason, all road users waiting at a mini roundabout can pretty much 'see' where everybody else intends to go, by their indication...[including, no indication].

One really has no need to counter-signal one's exit on a 'mini roundabout.'

Especially if in a long vehicle, where the indicator up one's backside may well be quite some way back down the road, on the way into the mini roundabout.

Imagine the confusion to a 16 year old moped rider?


Oh well, the wonders of 'licence acquisition'...first rule...don't allow the student to make too many decisions!

Keep it simple!

cajef

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Yeah, BSM lol

Interesting, while not doubting you I worked for BSM around that date and it was not the way I taught people to negotiate roundabouts and it certainly was not the way the BSM training school taught their instructors, we always instructed if going straight on not to indicate on approach but signal on exiting the roundabout.

Gordon_Hose

It wasn't just BSM though.

I was also taught that you can't go all the way around a mini rouandabout too, which seems to have changed since.

alastairq

no, Gordon..that hasn't changed at all...however, if one cannot physically fit round a mini roundabout, then one really should not be trying...

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Mini-roundabouts. Approach these in the same way as normal roundabouts. All vehicles MUST pass round the central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of doing so. Remember, there is less space to manoeuvre and less time to signal. Avoid making U-turns at mini-roundabouts. Beware of others doing this.

...advises against, but is not mandatory...........

If one does intend to turn right around at a mini roundabout, a driver must exercise extra care, as others might not understand what is being attempted..

Whilst on the topic of mini roundabouts, it is worth mentioning the actual significance of the blob of white paint in the centre [or, at least, somewhere in the middle]...

cars and other small vehicles are encouraged to actually steer around the blob.....larger vehicles can drive over it, if the situation,and their size, dictates such action.....a simple rule being..no part of the front [bumper] should pass to the right of the blob of paint.

I mention this as I frequently observe [car and van] drivers at local mini roundabouts, simply cutting across, completely to the right of the blob, when turning 'right'....probably out of convenience or sheer laziness.

The point I would make is that...they consider a vehicle from their left, to have 'failed to give way'...if they happen to meet it's off-side, to the right of the blob!

Whereas the reality is, they would actually be a 'following' vehicle....and there was no 'failure to give way'....


a bit like, taking a swipe at a car which happens to have moved off on a roundabout, by going the wrong way around.


I eagerly await the insurance claim which for me would be, a 'new' car, and a few nice holidays in the sun.....

Inactive

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

It's not wrong. I was never taught to indicate when going straight on at a roundabout. And I passed my test after going through numerous roundabout is Poole!

If it was wrong, I'd have failed my test.

It's wrong now, yeah...I agree there.

Not true, if your lack of signals did not cause any inconvenience to another road user, then that would not have been deemed a serious or dangerous fault and you would pass.

As I said, nothing has changed, I am 100% certain about that.

reeac

Strider590 wrote: »

It's akin to indicating right when your sat in a right hand only turn lane.....
Do you indicate to go round a bend in the road? Maybe some people do lol

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There's something to be said for indicating right if you're waiting in a centre lane on a fast road as it gives traffic coming up behind you a warning that you are stationary.

Kilty_2

Strider590 wrote: »

It's akin to indicating right when your sat in a right hand only turn lane.....
Do you indicate to go round a bend in the road? Maybe some people do lol

Maybe you should find these people, video them and upload your videos to YouTube so we can laugh at you some more?:money::T

alastairq

Originally Posted by Strider590
It's akin to indicating right when your sat in a right hand only turn lane.....
Do you indicate to go round a bend in the road? Maybe some people do lol

Since you mention it...indicating approaching a bend in the road is something I have seen many times over the years....

Strangely, it appeared a habit of Scottish motorists......like the 'two flashes of the left indicator' which..apparently meant, it was clear for one to overtake?

Again a Scottish trait..and not one I ever took a blind bit of notice of...I would never ever trust another driver to tell me whether a certain course of action was safe or not....especially as they wont carry the can if things aren't as safe as imagined.

Marvel1

I always indicate, I even indicated when I was driving at 2am in the morning and I was the only one on the rood, it was out of habit.

What really !!!!es me off with roundabouts is when drivers take the second exit, instead of staying on the outside, they drive straight across. I got cup by a driver doing this.

Marvel1

aliasojo wrote: »

There's a roundabout in Inverness which has 2 lanes entering it at one section. The left lane can be used to turn left OR right. Most people don't bother looking at the road markings and wrongly just assume left lane = left and right lane = right.

The problem comes when drivers waiting to enter the roundabout assume if you're in the left lane you're turning left and they then pull out in front of you.

Admittedly this is the only roundabout I have seen like this and it does seem to go against the usual rules.

This is excatly like a roundabout by me, the first, second and third exit can be used in the left lane. The problem is driver's don't indicate their intentions for left or right and when they go left I could have gone.