Disneyworld advert - not fair...

bargainbetty

Fang wrote: »

Like love above all else?

Your examples aren't values - they're the tools used to demonstrate the values.

Walt Disney was borderline tyrannical in his attitudes towards staff and crew, stole wildly from ancient folklore and then sued anyone who tried to use variations of the stories that had existed for donkey's years before he/they got their hands on them. His values were questionable at best and largely stolen from much darker children's tales and just tidied up for the US market. (Just an opinion, but one shared by thousands, in case anyone wants to sue me for expressing a belief).

The films promote damaging body images to children (overly skinny girls, heroes must be large and muscly, any slim man is a wimp or a sneak) and the male stereotypes are often hugely misogynistic. IMO.

He offered George Sanders (Shere Khan) a signed picture of himself as a bonus for doing a good job - no money, no more work, just an autographed picture. Sanders refused, but said Disney was welcome to one of him if he wanted it.

I was trying to make a joke of it, but the reality is far from it. Given all of that, can you really think they would baulk at hardcore emotional blackmail to sell their holiday parks? Which, by the way, Disney desperately tried to block from unionising for years, because it might force them to improve their treatment of staff? IMO, of course.

Personally, until there are no natural wonders left in the world, I would rather take people to just about anywhere else on earth first. Plastic castles, over-priced everything else.

danielley

I remember a couple of years ago my friends Daughter asked if she could go to Disneyland and when she told her that she couldn't afford it her daughter thought for a while and said

"But kids go free?"

That has always broke my heart ♥

x

peachyprice

nzmegs wrote: »

you know the ad. the one with the parents telling the kids they are off to disneyworld and isn't it great. they get all excited and the parents get tearful and the advert makers ask us when we are going to tell our kids.

Well, most of us can't tell our kids because we can't afford it, in fact we can't afford a holiday of any sort. try telling that to your kids when they are asking why they can't go to disneyworld like their friends and the kids on the telly.

we live in an affluent area and all of my children's friends go on amazing holidays at least every year if not more often. In fact my daughter's friend is going to NZ on holiday this year and I haven't taken my kids even though I was born there!

My daughter asks why we don't earn more (we are self employed and chose these jobs because it gives us family time at home and flexibility to be with our kids). My son has accepted it and says "we will never go to disneyworld so don't bother asking..."I find that so sad.

We have enough money to stay off benefits, we pay our mortgage, we eat well and our kids have lovely birthdays and christmases. Is this enough? No music lessons, swimming lessons, sports, after school clubs or regular new clothes like their friends.

We are both well educated (we could both get well paid jobs) and healthy with a great relationship and most of the time happy, but this type of pressure coming from the television just makes you think that going back to the normal day job might be worth it so we can have the things other families seem to be able to afford...am I right?

Do you really think the advert is aimed at people like you?

You've chosen this lifestyle, you've chosen to live in an area you can barely afford, you've chosen to work from home for less money and more time at home.

These choices are yours but other people choose to work more hours or live in cheaper areas so that they can give their children more experiences.

This isn't just about Disney is it? You've never been on holiday, your children do no activiteis, they don't have regualr new clothes, but you do exist in an affluent are. Do they apprecitae that?

I don't really understand why you're venting about the disappointment the advert is causing your children, when you are living your frugal lifestlye by choice, not necessity.

king100

All this because of an advert, my son who watches nicktoons have lots of adverts. Lots of toys and yes that disney advert.

Can we go dad? my reply do you have the money, if you do we can go. Then again he has been twice before already. When he was 2 and 5, this is to DW Florida.

You guys think its expensive, yes it is if you book virgin upper class, drive a SUV and stay in the grand Floridian.

We did 1 week 2 adults and a child TOTAL SPENT £1000, that was flights, accomodation, food passes and spending money. So it can be done on the cheap.

tasha-debt

Some of my favourite memories are of family holidays when I was a child including two trips to disney land. I had seen a lot of the world by the time I was 16. My parents did this by living in a nice area where they could have a nice house and afford family treats and a holiday. Now they could of moved to the posh area and had a big house but to them family time is so important and that includes family holidays. 2 whole weeks each year where we could all be together and spend quality time together. I think they knew that they could not have it all so they choose the middle.

Im 28 and I still like to go with them on holiday so I get to spend our time together, we are a very close family and see each other a lot and I think thats due to my parents life style choice.
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nzmegs

Just for the record - we do go on camping and cheaper UK holidays every summer. usually for around a week. My gripe is mainly with the way this particular advertising campaign was used and targeted at children. Yes we made a choice to be at home with our kids and it was the best thing to do for them. it just makes life harder sometimes. But I it won't be forever...

Britwife

I think you really need to look at what you DO have and not what you don't have. I have a feeling that many would love to have your life. You work at home and get to spend more time with your family.

Who cares about Disney, I have 3 children and they could care less when they see those ads. We're not well off, my dh works so I can stay home with our children but we survive. We get creative but mostly we go camping for our yearly holiday. We camp right on the beach and you really can't beat the price.

There are so many ways to enjoy your time with your children without spending loads of money and lots of places offer a free yearly pass after the first visit so it's worth going.

We don't really have the money, but I wouldn't change a thing about our lives, we just enjoy each other as a family and what the rest of the families are doing...doesn't matter, we arent them and never will be.

Just put Disney away and ignore what their adverts say since you're not going. Then it wont matter.

Esoog

king100 wrote: »

All this because of an advert, my son who watches nicktoons have lots of adverts. Lots of toys and yes that disney advert.

Can we go dad? my reply do you have the money, if you do we can go. Then again he has been twice before already. When he was 2 and 5, this is to DW Florida.

You guys think its expensive, yes it is if you book virgin upper class, drive a SUV and stay in the grand Floridian.

We did 1 week 2 adults and a child TOTAL SPENT £1000, that was flights, accomodation, food passes and spending money. So it can be done on the cheap.

Glad you think £1k for a week is "on the cheap", obviously that probably is for a holiday to Floria, but a £1k holiday to me isn't cheap!

alfiesmum

I'm sorry, but the OP is just sitting there feeling sorry for themselves. You choose what jobs you do, you choose not to spend money on Disneyland...and your point is? If this is your greatest worry this week hun, you're a lucky lucky family.

piratefairy

I don't have a tv so haven't seen the ad, but I can't see why an advert would make anyone feel inadequate. As someone else has mentioned a lot more eloquently, I'm sure, the only person who can make you feel inadequate is yourself - it's silly to try and blame that feeling on anyone else, let alone an advert.
I think it's really sad that you feel bad that you can't spoil your children, and give them anything they want. Surely it is better to show them the value of family, and give them what you can budget for, and afford, on top of the tme you spend with them. I was a kid whose dad worked long hours and bought guilt-trip presents to make up for it, and it just made me wish i could spend teh time with him instead. I think you are doing the right thing by spending time with your family.
(Plus Disneyland is overrated.)