Disneyworld advert - not fair...

Fang_3

bargainbetty wrote: »

I have more issues with Disney and the values it promotes....

A high society girl slumming it with homeless thieves (Aladdin)
A narcoleptic with such low self esteem after psychological abuse she marries the first man that kisses her (Sleeping Beauty)
Familial domestic abuse and wilful ABH by poisoning, and domestic servitude for a group of miners - Snow White
Endentured servitude and bestiality - Beauty and the Beast

Mickey Mouse is a six foot tall rat. Why is this considered appropriate for kids?

Like love above all else?

Your examples aren't values - they're the tools used to demonstrate the values.

Caroline73_2

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Better to have a happy life all year round than two weeks in Disney.

But some people can afford both so why shouldn't there be an effective marketing campaign aimed at them. This advert is actually aimed at the adult, not the child. Surely that is better?

Millions of people go to these places every year so people can afford them. Some people my put them on a credit card, but lots don't.

Don't blame the advertisers. They are just doing their job properly.

elisebutt65

LOL - This was actually a competition - you had to send in a video of you telling the kids you were going to Disney! I entered this one and didn't obviously win:o

I'd told littlie we were off to Disneyland Paris and it wasn't until we got to the airport that I told him it was actually Disneyland - California - didn't get the reaction of these families though as he was so gobsmacked, he couldn't talk for about 10 minutes - blissful silence:D

I've taken both boys to DL Ca, DW Fl and DLP at various points in their lives and they both know it's not happening again now as they're older and it is a kiddie thing really - I went on my own once and it was a tad dull without the kids.

I'm on !!!! money but I save really hard - move my savings around so I get the best rate etc and we do a big holiday every 3 years or so - plus I always look for bargains - went with United Holidays one year and managed to take DS1 to California, New York AND Florida in one go over 10 days for about £1400, just after 9/11. Plus we got bumped off the original flight to one an hour later so I managed to wangle 2 free flights for the following yr - went to California with the OH and we did a huge road trip - only paying for hotels and the car:D - Found a glitch on their website and got us upgraded for free at the same time - never happened again though.

It's all about priorities, as is everything in life - Me and the OH are going to get married in the next 5 years, so all my saving are going into a deposit so I can match him financially on a house - so we have downgraded on the hols now - instead of spending huge amounts on fortnights long-haul, we might go for a few nights to Amsterdam on the ferry, or a cheap week in Spain instead, if we really have to go abroad.

But I don't live in a posh area, I barely drink etc, cook from scratch most of the time, my rent is less than £400 a month and I work blooming hard - I do surveys, quidco - all the money saving stuff as well as teaching for my 'real' job. I usually only shop from the offers page online - lol.

But I'm still here for the kids - as a single mum - who else is going to be there? I only work 4 days a week, 2 of them are half days and I'm never home later than 4.30 so they can never say that I wasn't there for them - most of the time they have busier social lives than me - so in reality - they aren't there for me :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

POPPYOSCAR

Caroline73 wrote: »

But some people can afford both so why shouldn't there be an effective marketing campaign aimed at them. This advert is actually aimed at the adult, not the child. Surely that is better?

Millions of people go to these places every year so people can afford them. Some people my put them on a credit card, but lots don't.

Don't blame the advertisers. They are just doing their job properly.

I don't know why you quoted my post. I never said there was anything wrong with the advertising.If people want to go to Disney that is their right if they want to.I said We could afford to do it but chose not to.

winnie81

I think the adverts great but my kids and I don't get affected by adverts in that way but I can see how some would. Visiting Disney can be done on a budget as I have found out after thoroughly looking into it and booking for us to send a week there in July this year for £800ish

To be able to do it I booked when there were 45% off, cheap bargain eurotunnel package and we'll be taking our own food in for lunch and making the most of the shareholders discounts. I have bought a lot of brand new DLP trading pins fromo Ebay I have hiden as well as other goodies so the kids can have lots of treats when there without it costing us a fortune! I know what they will all want when there so I will by it in advance reduced rice and hide it away :cool:

We are saving like mad so nothing will be put on credit cards and hopefully we can eat out 3/4 nights in the themed restaurants and maybe catch the Buffalo Bill show but if not then we are staying in Davy Crockett so will cook at the ranch.

This is a huge amount for us to spend and has taken a lot of sacrifices and saving/savy shopping but I never thought we cold get there but with careful timing/bargain shopping it can be done even if it means saving for years.

Usually we do a late deal/sun holiday in UK but we always wanted to take them so have squirrelled cash away for a long time! The kids love exploring the beachs/countryside here in UK and we always have amazing times you really don't need to have big, lavish holidays to create magic memories :A

Maybe some extra careful budgeting/clever bargains you can too but I would never put a holiday on C/C as the paying it off would tarnish memories

OP if you really want to go make a budget and start saving like mad so in a few years you could go or maybe catch one of the Sun deals to DLP like they had just before Xmas that was very cheap!

sjc3

Ive had mixed feelings about the Disney advert too. My dd also asked when we might go. I told her we may visit when she is older and able to enjoy, remember and appreciate it more.

As a child we had foreign holidays to Europe. I have fond memories of them. I also greatly enjoyed all the holidays we spent in the UK, camping, spending hardly anything.

Before I married I travelled extensively both for leisure and work. I was actually pleased I was going to these places for the first time by myself, paid for by myself. It gave me a huge sense of achievement. As an adult I could do what I wanted on these trips and get the experience from it that I wanted.

I think the lifestyle you are giving your kids is priceless and they will value and thank you for it as they get older.

duchy

The OP says the advert makes her feel inadequate ....................... Well no.
The only person who can make you feel inadequate is YOU
You've made decisions for a certain family lifestyle which involves spending less time working and more time for the kids -and that is admirable but even if you both worked 18 hour days and earned huge amounts there would always be other families who could give their kids more than you could.

Ask most adults whose parents took them on "exotic" holidays what they remember most from their childhood and most won't even mention those expensive holidays -their lasting memories will be of other things -usually things that don't have much if anything to do with cost. (I was one of those kids-we didn't have much money but Dad was a travel agent so we had some amazing holidays but everyday living was often a struggle )

Really....give yourself a break -and stop wasting energy over things you 1 Can't change (and probably wouldn't want to at the expense of what you have now)and 2 In the big picture really and honestly aren't important.

balletshoes

If you want to take your kids but think its out of your budget, MSE has its own Disneyland Paris thread (and the other Disney parks too) on the overseas holidays forum.

I know I can't afford a fortnight at the parks in Florida/California, but the Sun DLP deal was a very good one indeed for a day trip taster, and if you plan for certain times of the year, you can get 2 nights free/40% off, free kids under 12 etc etc.

But as I said before, I think its perfectly okay to say to your kids "its too expensive/we can't afford it/its a waste of money". This goes for all luxuries, including holidays.

Esoog

bargainbetty wrote: »

I have more issues with Disney and the values it promotes....

A high society girl slumming it with homeless thieves (Aladdin)
A narcoleptic with such low self esteem after psychological abuse she marries the first man that kisses her (Sleeping Beauty)
Familial domestic abuse and wilful ABH by poisoning, and domestic servitude for a group of miners - Snow White
Endentured servitude and bestiality - Beauty and the Beast

Mickey Mouse is a six foot tall rat. Why is this considered appropriate for kids?

Not to mention Walt Disney was a raving Nazi!

Becles

arran_m wrote: »

I must have been the only child that didnt want to go to disneyland,I thought it looked like an overgrown tacky themepark! Venice was always my destination of choice in primary school

I never wanted to go to Disneyland as a child and my children have never asked to go.

We never visit theme parks but are members of both English Heritage and the National Trust and make heavy use of their properties and sites.

My Dad worked long hours both when me and my brother were children and when my two boys were young. Since having my daughter, my Dad works part time and he helps look after her in the mornings while I'm at work.

There's loads of times he's got really excited about some trivial thing my daughter has done for the first time as although he's been a parent and grandparent all this time, it's the first time he's really experienced seeing a baby/toddler develop. It's made me realise just how much a parent who works long hours misses out on.

If my children had watched the advert and asked to go, or asked for anything else expensive, I just say we can't afford it. If they twist about it, I point out they live in a nice house, they're warm, they're well fed, they're clean and clothed, they're educated and very much loved, and they're a lot better off than many other children out in the world today. That makes them think and appreciate what they do have.