We are all in this together.

ninky_2

abaxas wrote: »

Take for example schools. I say invest in the education of the children, not the the school buildings.

spoken by someone who didn't spend the majority of their school life taught in portacabins. or 'elliots' as i think the then brand name was.

i suspect eton and harrow don't share your view on infrastructure.

ninky_2

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

Well not taking at face value everything you are spoon fed by the Labour Party, or for that matter any other political party, is a good place to start.

well if that's what the average brit does then how come labour lost the last election?

abaxas

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

Well not taking at face value everything you are spoon fed by the Labour Party, or for that matter any other political party, is a good place to start.

Agreed, you can only vote on the underlying principles.

Labour - spend spend panic
Tory - frock you unless you want to work and improve yourself.
Libdems - lie lie lie and get found out if you get into power.

ninky_2

Jennifer_Jane wrote: »

Cutting corporation tax should help the private sector to improve. Increasing personal allowances also cuts tax for the poorer tax payers in society.

As for being all in it together, I think it is a good slogan - it's making people think it seems, and sums up the awful situation we are in. As for me, like so many people living on a small income, I am suffering from the increased food, fuel, petrol costs, and the general hike in VAT (have had to buy some major house maintenance/replacement things so far this year) has had large impact on my emergency fund. But if it helps the Country get back on track, then so be it.

That's what Cameron means by 'We're all in it together'.

it won't. we were actually out of recession at the last election. and heading back into one now. hardly getting back on track.

abaxas

ninky wrote: »

it won't. we were actually out of recession at the last election. and heading back into one now. hardly getting back on track.

I'm sure if we'd printed another £200 billion into the economy we wouldnt have this problem.

Question is, how do we pay it back?

ninky_2

abaxas wrote: »

Agreed, you can only vote on the underlying principles.

Labour - spend spend panic
Tory - frock you unless you want to work and improve yourself.
Libdems - lie lie lie and get found out if you get into power.

a healthy democracy is about more than voting for the main political parties [STRIKE]once in a blue moon [/STRIKE]every five years.

lostinrates

ninky wrote: »

spoken by someone who didn't spend the majority of their school life taught in portacabins. or 'elliots' as i think the then brand name was.

i suspect eton and harrow don't share your view on infrastructure.

Um, my school had portacabins (for maths and english), so I'm afraid it happens outside state sector (though not as much, and usually on a temp basis)....not the whole school but I think eight classrooms were portacabins. Also used to drop nieces into a school with among the best facilities in the region, but her home room when she was 6 was a portacabin. It was temporary...it took the school two years to build the ''bit'' those year groups went in, but those two years were in portacabins. (edit, just remembered the nurseries in other ones public school nursery dept were a building at the front but leading into four''permanent'' portacabins at the back)

On the otherhand, the science, arts and sports facilities were pretty astounding. the structure, however basic, was warm enough for comfort and dry and safe, and the teachers were filled with the right ''stuff'' to teach them.

Thrugelmir

ninky wrote: »

it won't. we were actually out of recession at the last election. and heading back into one now. hardly getting back on track.

I didn't realise it was so easy to resolve Government and consumer overborrowing and manage the shrinking of the banks. All at the same time.

More than likely we'll have a decade of austerity. Where hopefully a more equitable society will evolve.

abaxas

ninky wrote: »

a healthy democracy is about more than voting for the main political parties [STRIKE]once in a blue moon [/STRIKE]every five years.

Yes, there can be riots too.

ninky_2

abaxas wrote: »

I'm sure if we'd printed another £200 billion into the economy we wouldnt have this problem.

Question is, how do we pay it back?

slowly. and by having more people in employment and motivated to work. benefits culture was something labour should have tackled and taken seriously. don't think the condems plan is going to cut it though. so many people feel their employment being devalued and/or eradicated with these cuts. the whole public / private sector rage has been very damaging. it seems some people genuinely believe anyone in the public sector is a lazy sicknote writing skiver with no proper job to do.