CITB Construction skills

villabadger

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Exactly - although like yourself I am a she.

Interesting they they have been 'asked' not to contribute any more...call me a cynic but I expect it was the other way around.

All gone quiet from the MSE side of things as well......Andrea? Any comments?

villabadger

Are we gonna get an explanation as to why CITB cannot contribute any further to this discussion?

Anyone out there that pays this tax and believes that it is money well spent?

Flyboy152

Lifeisbutadream wrote: »

I hope that someone can help me?

I have received a letter this morning from CITB Construction SKills asking me for a whopping £1234.00.. :eek:

Apparantly because I have paid employees and subcontractors more than £80K, I have to pay a % to CITB????

I simply cannot believe this! I cant afford it and I dont see why I should pay? I get less than that from them in payments for our Apprentice and the whole reason that we signed up with them was to get the payments for the Apprenitice.

I feel like if you do everything 'by the book' you just get stung for more and more money.

I wont pay this. I dont care what they do. They way I feel at the moment they can take the fcking lot. Whats the point of working?

(sorry for the rant I am a little bit upset..:()

Then risk having your apprentice funding cut or withdrawn. It's up to you. If they do cut or cease the funding, what will you do?



P.S. Please tone the language down. My kids read this.

Lifeisbutadream

hellokitty08 wrote: »

I have no idea as apprenticeships for 16-18 year olds are fully funded by the government. Maybe take an apprentice on yourself, then apply for the CITB Grant, you would get some of the money back then.

They arent fully funded, they are part funded (less than a third of what you have to pay them). Certainly not funded enough to warrant taking one on unless you were going to do it anyway.

mac_plas

hellokitty08 - i would love to take a labourer on and train him up along with my plastering partner, but the simple fact is we cannot afford to, i would rather pay a young kid a decent wage or not have one at all over £200 p/w but like said i cannot afford it.

i have taken young kids on site 90% of them stand around txtin or on facebook, they do not want to work, they are only there because their mother dragged them out of bed.

sambuca - all the training i had was paid for by myself, at 16 i was begging local plasterers to give me a chance and after 6 months i got it, i never went to college.

who paid for my CSCS, me. how much did it cost £20 for test, £30 for card, and then my card upgraded when i got my qualifications another £30

who paid for my qualifications, this is good. ME. i rung up trying to get assesed by government/CITB funded companies to be told, THE MONEY HAS RUN OUT, and had to pay about £170.00 for the NVQ myself.

i cannot just walk out of my job and walk into another there is no work around.


the building trade is on its knees, these levy's/contributions are just another tax on the tradesmen is distgusting.

after tax, insurance, sometimes a retention, cost of fuel, cost of tools/van/ect it is not worth it.

CITB give nothing back to 95% of the people they take money from, the overall cost for me is around £3500 give or take a few quid that they have taken from me, i could have got an IPAF and PASMA for myself at a fraction of the cost paid for by myself.

Former_MSE_Andrea

Hi everyone

Can you please try to keep your posts on topic, free of bad language and friendly to everyone else?

We've had to remove quite a few posts that had relevant information in it because other parts of them weren't appropriate.

Please remember if the team has to remove more it may have to take further action on individuals.

Also, to answer the question, no businesses may post on the forum unless they're in an MSE article or are a household name company and even in those cases they must get permission from us.

Have a good afternoon

Andrea

villabadger

Lifeisbutadream wrote: »

Not yet - I resubmitted the form, which totalled just over £67K, so they cant touch me for that year. My Accountant has said that they will sort out this years for me.

Wow, that's good news! How did you manage to get it down then? I assume that you were just over the £80k originally, from your first post?

Lifeisbutadream

villabadger wrote: »

Wow, that's good news! How did you manage to get it down then? I assume that you were just over the £80k originally, from your first post?

I realised that some of the jobs that I had thought were 'labour only' were actually not - the definitions were not very clear !

For instance the plasterer we use supplies his own plaster - I would never have thought of that really because he just used to give us a price for the job - so all his were not included - same with the electrician and the plumber. The only ones that needed to be included were our apprentice and the 2 joiners that we use and the odd window fitter.

villabadger

Lifeisbutadream wrote: »

I realised that some of the jobs that I had thought were 'labour only' were actually not - the definitions were not very clear !

For instance the plasterer we use supplies his own plaster - I would never have thought of that really because he just used to give us a price for the job - so all his were not included - same with the electrician and the plumber. The only ones that needed to be included were our apprentice and the 2 joiners that we use and the odd window fitter.

Ah, well done! I'm sure you will be working hard to keep your number down in future years!;)

I'll be working hard to try to avoid these leeches!:D

Former_MSE_Andrea

Hi guys

Sorry, I didn't explain very well yesterday, unfortunately we've had to remove posts that had perfectly good info in them because they'd either mentioned or quoted off topic stuff.

If you keep your posts completely on topic and make sure you don't quote off-topic posts then your posts will be left on the thread if someone reports it again.

PS, please remember people read threads without posting on them. It's not always someone on the thread that reports. Making accusations doesn't help any of us keep the forum friendly and on topic.

Thanks

Andrea