Council move, not entitled to HB and running up huge debts!

paddedjohn

person_one wrote: »

i don't think its on for people to keep suggesting that the op 'get rid' of her dogs. She took on that responsibility and she owes it to them to care for them. Also, dogs are a part of the family, they aren't just 'stuff' lying around that you can stick on ebay for a bit of extra cash!

i'd live off value beans and do without hot water before i 'got rid' of a pet.

she could live on aberdeen angus fillet if she got rid of her dogs;)

Person_one

paddedjohn wrote: »

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she could live on aberdeen angus fillet if she got rid of her dogs;)

But what would happen to the dogs that she made a commitment to care for?

spaceman5

mickey54 wrote: »

Hi...The OP is not in supported accommodation. She is in homeless accommodation...where the rental is a lot higher. This is based on fact that the amount of staff required to give 24 hr cover is a lot. We do have supporting people in Scotland - but she is a different criteria.

OP - have you requested Council move you to other temp accommodation where there is no support in place? I know that here there are flats available - and they are approx. same as council rented properties.

As others have suggested - contact Shelter....and any other agencies out there. I would even give consideration about going to local newspaper!! Have you written or attempted to contact senior staff in the council - ie...Chief Exec or Head of service for Homeless?

Good luck in getting another Council flat. Just as an aside - do Fife Council not have some mid-market rental properties that you can access meantime - and still keep your homeless application going?

Sorry - do not remember from what I have read - do you still have to pay rent on the two homes? If so - because you were moved because of harassment, you MAY - just MAY... be able to claim a two homes payment.

there is no wonder there are so many people living on the streets, if it costs more to live in a homeless shelter for a few weeks, than it would cost for a mortgage to buy a pretty decent sized house

Jowo_2

Perhaps the OP can find a pet fostering charity - they provide temporary foster care for different groups, including the temporily homeless, those experiencing a crisis. That would help her household avoid debt. For example.

http://www.pfss.org.uk/

shellsuit

FBaby wrote: »

Since when is council housing and therefore cheap rent a reward for hard work? Many people work hard, that doesn't mean the council gives them housing. The only reason you got it is because at one point you were on benefits, the fact you are now working doesn't mean that you deserve to still have it. I am a single mum of two and my income is the same as yours, but my outgoings are more. I pay £730 a month for my mortgage. Should I have the right to go and complain to the council that I think my outgoings are too much and therefore request they rehouse me? Of course not, I earn a decent salary and I don't need assistance. If I can't manage my budget, I need to make changes to my life.

The truth is you were very lucky to still have your home, but instead of being grateful for getting something you didn't NEED any longer, you are moaning because you can't have it for a limited time. Incredible....

Income has nothing to do with it with some councils, so No it doesn't mean she got the house in the first place because she was on benefits!

The OP isn't expecting the council to rehome her because her outgoings are too much, she should be rehomed by the council as she has had to move from that home through no fault of her own.

Why should she give up her (what should be) secure tenancy, to move into private and maybe have to move on every 6 months?

I live in a HA house which we were offered last year after being on the waiting list for 12 years. My husband earns more than the OP and to be honest, I couldn't give a stuff whether people think it's right or wrong.

lauzellen

Person_one wrote: »

I don't think its on for people to keep suggesting that the OP 'get rid' of her dogs. She took on that responsibility and she owes it to them to care for them. Also, dogs are a part of the family, they aren't just 'stuff' lying around that you can stick on ebay for a bit of extra cash!

I'd live off value beans and do without hot water before I 'got rid' of a pet.

I'd rather be able to feed, clothe, keep warm and maintain a roof over the heads of my children than pay £400 a month for dogs... I'd have put them with a rehoming charity if need be or see if one can foster them on a short term basis as suggested by another poster.

I do hope you can get something sorted OP as would not wish to see anyone in financial difficulties with the stress this can cause - it is not healthy, especially when you have young children.

budgetboo

Why can the person preventing you living in your home be presented with the bill for the temporary accomodation? I honestly don't see why you, the victim should be liable for it. I'd think this whether the home you were driven from was mortgaged, rented or owned outright. The authorities should be pursuing the harrasser for the current rent and the bills for kenneling your animals, it shouldn't be your responsility in any way. If the harrasser is also a social tenant, morally you owe the council no more than your usual rent. Have you tried to pursue this angle?

If the person who has driven you out of your home has to give their belongings to the baliffs to pay for the upset to a family with a newborn to pay for it then that's justice. Nights sleeping on bare floor boards might help prevent them from doing to anyone else.

AimeesMum_2

Thank you to everyone that replied and especially for the people who can understand where I am coming from.

I guess it's more the principal of the way we have been treated. We were living in a 3bedroom flat which we loved (except the neighbour) and decorated as we were hoping to buy it one day and knew we would have this option in several years time. A home that we invested time, money and memories in and it was snatched away from us. We both come from pretty difficult upbringings and it was finally something that we had that was ours (I disagree with people that say that it wasn't) and if therefore we wanted to make it something to be proud of.

I think it's an awful thought that people feel that you should only be in a council house if you are on benefits - where is the incentive to improve your life if you only get things if you sit on your !!!!.

Giving up my dog is not an option. We couldn't afford to put two animals into kennels (we also had a cat) and had to make our three year old choose which one she wanted to keep the most as "another family needed cheering up". Our dog is our pet and we love him - I will continue to pay for his kennels. We have had him since he was 6 weeks old and he is part of the family.

I honestly thought that people would be more supportive of the fact that I have done nothing wrong and been ran out of my home with no means of compensation or assistance. Been told we could be in here up to a year and really feeling the pressure. I would private let but my stubborn partner is refusing to as we lost a "secure" tenancy and have been mucked about in nearly every private let we have been in. We don't have the same legislation here regarding deposits etc as England and the pressure to move around a lot is unfair.

I am going to write a letter of complaint and thank you very much for the links. I apologise If I seem ungrateful, I honestly am not at all and I know that we are very lucky...I just think we have been treated like we were the ones in the wrong

bestpud

shellsuit wrote: »

Income has nothing to do with it with some councils, so No it doesn't mean she got the house in the first place because she was on benefits!

The OP isn't expecting the council to rehome her because her outgoings are too much, she should be rehomed by the council as she has had to move from that home through no fault of her own.

Why should she give up her (what should be) secure tenancy, to move into private and maybe have to move on every 6 months?

I live in a HA house which we were offered last year after being on the waiting list for 12 years. My husband earns more than the OP and to be honest, I couldn't give a stuff whether people think it's right or wrong.

But would you expect to receive housing benefit on your household income? As that is what the OP wants.

Person_one

lauzellen wrote: »

I'd rather be able to feed, clothe, keep warm and maintain a roof over the heads of my children than pay £400 a month for dogs... I'd have put them with a rehoming charity if need be or see if one can foster them on a short term basis as suggested by another poster.

I do hope you can get something sorted OP as would not wish to see anyone in financial difficulties with the stress this can cause - it is not healthy, especially when you have young children.

I don't think its either/or in the OP' situation.