Limited Trading on Sundays

Simon11

I work as a lifeguard, and we can work shifts on Sundays that begin at 7am and can end at 7pm. We don't get the sort protection that shops get.

If you believe we should keep the 6hour rule, why doesn't it apply for leisure centres?

Do also remember that while the shops only open for 6hrs, staff there can be at work hours before and after.....

stephen77

Simon11 wrote: »

I work as a lifeguard, and we can work shifts on Sundays that begin at 7am and can end at 7pm. We don't get the sort protection that shops get.

If you believe we should keep the 6hour rule, why doesn't it apply for leisure centres?

Do also remember that while the shops only open for 6hrs, staff there can be at work hours before and after.....

the point is your trying to change their working hours.
I am going to guess when you started being a life gaurd you new the score.

Quite a few people have if they do like the proposed working hours in retail they can change there job.
However the people suggesting, could be argued they should change their hours if sunday shopping after 5:00pm is so vital to them.

tomwakefield

stephen77 wrote: »

the point is your trying to change their working hours.

Since when? All that is proposed is to remove the limitation on Sunday trading. This doesn't necessarily involve forcing existing staff to do increased hours - new staff could be employed.

stephen77

tomwakefield wrote: »

Since when? All that is proposed is to remove the limitation on Sunday trading. This doesn't necessarily involve forcing existing staff to do increased hours - new staff could be employed.

They may well emply new staff in certain cases.

However there will be a lot of staff just asked to work longer on those days.
If the shop was open from 11:00pm to 5:00pm. 1 hour before and after tidy etc.
The shop now opens from 9:00pm to 6:00pm. 1 hour either side.
Do you really think there going to say your still work the same hours and we employ extra staff to do a bit in the morning and a bit in the evening?

TheSaint_2

Think of the poor workers who have to work sunday shifts.
If we went back to having everything closed on sundays families would be able to spend more time together.
Low paid workers would get a fixed day off and chance to rest.

Everyone would buy the same stuff anyway - just in 6 days instead of 7, so shops would be better off as they would have lower costs.

Everyone would have a better quality of life as a result.

I always thought it funny that retailers pushed for it as it is actually costing them more money to be open!:A

NoSatisfaction

Storck wrote: »

I work in retail and can not see why other sectors do not open more hours either. Banks could start opening 24 hours a day, followed by schools, and all council offices.


Every business should open 24 hours a day 7 days a week because they are not open enough at the moment.

And who would pay all the extra wages, taxes and council tax. Us of course. Staying open longer costs money.

It's taken decades of social reform to reduce working hours now some selfish so and sos want it all taken away for their convieniance.

TheSaint_2

NoSatisfaction wrote: »

It's taken decades of social reform to reduce working hours now some selfish so and sos want it all taken away for their convieniance.

Agreed - it all does boil down to selfishness on the part of the consumer.

NoSatisfaction

TheSaint wrote: »

I always thought it funny that retailers pushed for it as it is actually costing them more money to be open!:A

it was the diy shops that started itvas they saw sales increase if the opened Sundays. Then the supermarkets did it because they increased Market share as the small butchers and grocers couldn't compete with their opening times (staff wise not hours wise).

If they could get the same levels of sales without more opening then they would. They would love to open for fewer hours but competition stops them doing so.

TheSaint_2

Another case of selfishness there then - on the part of the big retailers squeezing out the poor independant shops.

Come to think about it, I wonder if our local high streets would be as empty as they are now if we had not started sunday trading.... (bit of a leap i know!).

Freddie_Snowbits

tomwakefield wrote: »

Since when? All that is proposed is to remove the limitation on Sunday trading. This doesn't necessarily involve forcing existing staff to do increased hours - new staff could be employed.

Think of the agency Forklift driver

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

How many are 'forced' to work Sunday, how man shop workers are members of the Union?

I like the continent and Germany, Belgium where these emporiums are shut. We do not need to go to them 24/7, nor do we need 24/7. I have it uop when the delviery van comes round after 6, that is far too late for me, on my estate they are still ramming it home after 9 and the council are absolutley toothless (Dursley go a shiney new Fire Station, Mr Sainsbury got an emporium!). Yes it gives choice, but look ate what this has done.

Shop opens Sunday
Shop needs Stock
Lorry driver forced to work on Sunday to deliver goods
Warehouse open on Sunday
Forklift driver forced to work on Sunday, even though he has worked the last 6 days on the trot.
Forklift driver's wife fed up with not their time at the Weekend.

That is why these places should open only as Follows: -

Monday 9:00 to 5:30
Tuesday 9:00 to 5:30
Wednesday 9:00 to 1:30
Thursday 9:00 to 7:30
Friday 9:00 to 5:30
Saturday 9:00 to 3:30
Sunday SHUT.