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Speeding Fine
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The ACPO guidelines are not there to take account of speedometer inaccuracies. If the radar gun indicates a speed of thirty miles per hour, that means the car is travelling at thirty miles per hour; not twenty-seven and not thirty-three. If the car is travelling at thirty miles per hour, the speedometer is not allowed to indicate a speed of twenty-seven miles per hour. If we include the ACPO guidelines, if the inaccuracies were allowed, it would mean that you would be allowed to perceive your indicated speed as much as forty miles per hour on your speedometer, or consider your indicated speed of thirty-five miles per hour being legal, but allowed to travel at forty miles per hour.
That doesn't even make sense.
Consistency and transparency. simple as.
5t.What if there was no such thing as a rhetorical question?0 -
That doesn't even make sense.
Consistency and transparency. simple as.
5t.
It makes perfect sense. Sorry if it doesn't agree with your opinion, but there we are.
But, in summary; the ACPO guidelines are not there to take account of allowable overreading in speedometers.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Actually the radar gun, by which I presume you mean the LTI 2020 laserscope as AFAIK that's the only handheld device that is type approved for the UK, is one of the least accurate devices used on the roads today. You can throw the reading off simply by moving your hand slightly while it is taking a reading, something that is very easily done on a handheld device.
The gun works by taking two distance measurements and comparing the change in distance against the time period between them, so by simply pulling the gun backwards (as often happens when inexperienced people pull a trigger) you can increase the speed reading.
Even the manufacturer admit that it can be up to 2mph out, though they deny all the other claims about it's inaccuracy.0 -
Actually the radar gun, by which I presume you mean the LTI 2020 laserscope as AFAIK that's the only handheld device that is type approved for the UK, is one of the least accurate devices used on the roads today. You can throw the reading off simply by moving your hand slightly while it is taking a reading, something that is very easily done on a handheld device.
The gun works by taking two distance measurements and comparing the change in distance against the time period between them, so by simply pulling the gun backwards (as often happens when inexperienced people pull a trigger) you can increase the speed reading.
Even the manufacturer admit that it can be up to 2mph out, though they deny all the other claims about it's inaccuracy.
In which case, this could be the reason for the ACPO guidelines, rather than the drivers' speedometers.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Yes, I said to my Brother in Law that ive know for nearly 50 years, "Your a liar let me see the ticket"!0
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What a load of bollox you talk happychappy, my eyes work perfectly well and are checked regularly for my job, when doing national speed (60 or 70 mph) a small circular sign with red border showing 30 (perhaps round a corner) doesn't give sufficent allowance to safely lower speed to the limit required.Happychappy wrote: »Try using the round coloured things set to either side of your nose? some people have blue, some brown and some never use them, however, once you get used to using them, you can see speed and direction signs, speed vans, birds, wildlife and all things bright and beautiful :rotfl: dont like your idea of erecting more and more expensive road signs for the visually impaired
There are a few locations i pass daily that meet the above, its just i know what the limits are and ease off the gas earlier than i can see and read the signs.0 -
You could say "Your a liar let me see" or you could have said "Mate, that's unusual to get done for 32mph, I've never seen a ticket for such a low speed before, would you mind if I had a look?"
Or you might have better things to do than go round and view a speeding ticket. That's fine, but then don't go claiming "the ticket had 32mph written on it" when you didn't see it yourself. Your using second hand info which could easily be wrong as the basis to try and establish a fact.
Is your brother in law called billy !!!!!!!!?0 -
In which case, this could be the reason for the ACPO guidelines, rather than the drivers' speedometers.
It is. I never claimed that the guideline was due to speedometer error. I just took issue with your claim that speedometers never underread when it is a fact that some speedometers do underread. They just don't underread when new.0
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