EDF Price changes - just switched to them :-(

zagfles

MillicentBystander wrote: »

Err, I'm not with British Gas. And from week to week you will find, how this crazy industry is structured, the cheapest deal for you will be a different company and please don't try and pretend otherwise or I'll ask for your consumption details, area and monitor it on a weekly basis. And don't think I'm not sad enough to do it.

The point is that before before all this competition was introduced you would have had no choice but to be with British Gas for your gas. You seemed to object getting given a choice.

Of course the cheapest deal changes, just like the cheapest supermarket changes, so what? That's the whole point of competition.

jack_spratt_2

energy99 wrote: »

because sadly we dont have any british investors with that type of money who want to invest!

Privatisation was not about finding a company with enough money to buy it as the utility companies were state controlled
I have no axe to grind with EDF they offered me a competitive product with a price freeze to march

If you could look into the S@ver 7 and 8 rates because the biggest problem with EDF is the lack of clear communication

zagfles

jack_spratt wrote: »

With regards to the comments about foreign ownership it is more to the point why should essential services to the British public be controlled by foreign companies .

Privatisation of the utility companies was allegedly done to promote competition and as we can all see it was a massive failure the olny people who benefited were the city

Over the last 20 years UK energy prices have been generally much lower than European countries with a state monopoly.

MillicentBystander

zagfles wrote: »

The point is that before before all this competition was introduced you would have had no choice but to be with British Gas for your gas. You seemed to object getting given a choice.

Of course the cheapest deal changes, just like the cheapest supermarket changes, so what? That's the whole point of competition.

Bunkum. You find a better deal than you are currently on next week (you will!) and can you switch penalty free? Err, no, so please give me the benefit of some intelligence and stop talking about competition! There IS no competition that you can take advantage of unless you pay the exit fee! In what way can that be seen as a competitive industry? If I change my weekly shop from Tesco to Asda do I have to pay an exit fee? No. So in no way does your analogy have any credibility.

MillicentBystander

zagfles wrote: »

Over the last 20 years UK energy prices have been generally much lower than European countries with a state monopoly.

Usual industry patsy piffle. You've been on the induction course, I see. The ONLY way to compare the ACTUAL cost of gas and electric in different countries is to calculate it as a %tage of average household income, none of this 'Germany pay so many euros per unit, the exchange rate is so and so so this is the unit cost in pounds'. It's a nonsense peddled by industry insiders.

PS And we should also include the level of re-investment compared to company income/profits. As you clearly work in the industry, perhaps you could enlighten us as to the amount of gas storage facilities we have in this country compared to, say, France?

zagfles

MillicentBystander wrote: »

Bunkum. You find a better deal than you are currently on next week (you will!) and can you switch penalty free? Err, no, so please give me the benefit of some intelligence and stop talking about competition! There IS no competition that you can take advantage of unless you pay the exit fee! In what way can that be seen as a competitive industry? If I change my weekly shop from Tesco to Asda do I have to pay an exit fee? No. So in no way does your analogy have any credibility.

I generally check every few months or so and I've switched regularly - usually once the exit fee period has expired. Often you can switch to a different tariff with the same company without paying an exit fee even if it would normally apply. And quite often you can get cashback for switching which can cancel the exit fee.

So the idea that there is no competition is frankly rubbish.

backfoot

May I ask the EDF rep if he would care to comment on my thread as well,please.

You can find it here.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3043028

Many thanks.

zagfles

MillicentBystander wrote: »

Usual industry patsy piffle. You've been on the induction course, I see. The ONLY way to compare the ACTUAL cost of gas and electric in different countries is to calculate it as a %tage of average household income, none of this 'Germany pay so many euros per unit, the exchange rate is so and so so this is the unit cost in pounds'. It's a nonsense peddled by industry insiders.

PS And we should also include the level of re-investment compared to company income/profits. As you clearly work in the industry, perhaps you could enlighten us as to the amount of gas storage facilities we have in this country compared to, say, France?

I don't work in the industry. I just know a lot of people in various European countries who were paying MUCH more for energy usage than I was.

But you clearly have some sort of political agenda. I'm not really interested in some pointless discussion about whether something which happened 20 years ago was a good idea or not. I post here for current day moneysaving, I thought that was the point of this forum.

murphydog999

EDF and EON aren't related are they?

MillicentBystander

zagfles wrote: »

I don't work in the industry. I just know a lot of people in various European countries who were paying MUCH more for energy usage than I was.

But you clearly have some sort of political agenda. I'm not really interested in some pointless discussion about whether something which happened 20 years ago was a good idea or not. I post here for current day moneysaving, I thought that was the point of this forum.

Now if you had made it clear at the start that your theory was backed up by such incontrovertible facts and in-depth scientific research as that perhaps I would have been more reticent to challenge you, lol.