Natural History Museum security

Andy_L

No1 wrote: »

Well they look just as dangerous as this.

What's the definition of a "Swiss Army Knife" ?

Its used as a shorthand term for any folding penknife (like hoover is/was used to refer to any vacumn cleaner)

Tiddlywinks

You have openly outlined a possible security breach at a high profile public venue just so that you can have a bit of a moan - well, as a 'Senior Police Officer' perhaps you should have used other more appropriate channels rather than 'outing' the problem to everyone in cyberspace.

Also, you did intimate that you took your weapon and CS home with you - advertising this is, you should know, a big 'no-no' - or do you not attend your H&S and firearms handling briefings on this. Or are you too 'senior' to be bothered?

Your urgency to declare your occupation and the references to weapons / firearms is unseemly at best; I see this as inappropriate behaviour for a law enforcement employee.

You should use existing channels to raise your concerns and refrain from publicising such shortcomings to anyone that will listen.

I'm struggling to believe that you are ACPO rank material - is your real name Walter perhaps?

CWCDiver

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

You have openly outlined a possible security breach at a high profile public venue just so that you can have a bit of a moan - well, as a 'Senior Police Officer' perhaps you should have used other more appropriate channels rather than 'outing' the problem to everyone in cyberspace.

Also, you did intimate that you took your weapon and CS home with you - advertising this is, you should know, a big 'no-no' - or do you not attend your H&S and firearms handling briefings on this. Or are you too 'senior' to be bothered?

Your urgency to declare your occupation and the references to weapons / firearms is unseemly at best; I see this as inappropriate behaviour for a law enforcement employee.

You should use existing channels to raise your concerns and refrain from publicising such shortcomings to anyone that will listen.

I'm struggling to believe that you are ACPO rank material - is your real name Walter perhaps?

I did inform more appropriate channels, who I doubt will do anything about it. If you think this is opening a potential security threat then you obviously think the NHM is a potential target? Where as most of the other museums in London do not have this kind of security and do not see the need to conduct bag checks.

Advertising the fact I take my kit home with me is of very little consequence, I have maintained good PERSEC and managed not to post my address on the forum. And as I said, I do not have police firearms at home. I fail to see what the urgency was to inform people I am in the job, I simply informed one moron of this and he still cannot grasp the fact it is illegal. And nope, I'm not a walt or I would have been something more glamorous like the SAS or an Irish baron CP god.

Foggster

Well I carry a metal nail file that can easily remove splinter, open pasta and other useful things.

CWCDriver - I find you kinda scary and I am kinda of hoping you never come too far west of the country to serve!

CWCDiver

Foggster wrote: »

Well I carry a metal nail file that can easily remove splinter, open pasta and other useful things.

CWCDriver - I find you kinda scary and I am kinda of hoping you never come too far west of the country to serve!

I have no need of a nailfile though, my nails tend to be filed at home.

Foggster

CWCDiver wrote: »

I have no need of a nailfile though, my nails tend to be filed at home.

Ooo I couldnt walk around with a cagged nail, I would have to deal with it straight away, after all a cagged nail could cause an injuury.

However, I am still somewhat peeved that my husband had his "legal" swiss army pen knife taken off him at the airport.

CWCDiver

Foggster wrote: »

Ooo I couldnt walk around with a cagged nail, I would have to deal with it straight away, after all a cagged nail could cause an injuury.

However, I am still somewhat peeved that my husband had his "legal" swiss army pen knife taken off him at the airport.

I would probably just bite it off.

An airport is a different matter, I assume he had forgotten to remove it from his carryon bag?

Foggster

CWCDiver wrote: »

I would probably just bite it off.

An airport is a different matter, I assume he had forgotten to remove it from his carryon bag?

It was in his laptop bag and to be honest he had forgotten he had put it in there (he had been cutting cable ties) but they treated him pretty severely. I am only peeved because I had bought it (well he had to cross my palm with silver before he got it )

shaun_from_Africa

Slightly off the original topic, but still related.
I used to do a lot of upper class flights with Virgin, and at the time the UK airports were on "heightened" security.
It used to make me laugh when the airport security people would take a pair of tiny nail scissors off people, but then as soon as you boarded the aircraft you were given a "goody bag" containing one of these:

bosseyed

rustyboy21 wrote: »

I would presume that the picture you showed above is not to scale.

If you measure the length of the blade and the length of the shaft, the bottom one especially is approx 2.75''. Therefore if it was to scale, that would make the blade over 3'' therefore illegal as you state.

This is hilarious - you've actually been sitting there measuring your screen on the confident assumption that just because its on your monitor its at 1:1 scale?

Theres is nothing about that picture that can give you any inkling to the scale of those knives, so to 'measure' them on your screen and then confidently pronounce them illegal is one of the daftests things I've heard said on this forum

And, my views. Personally, as long as they're legal, which they are, the OP can carry as many as he likes. You could kill someone with a pen if you wanted to, just because its called a knife doesn't make it a likely tool for a stabbing.

And to drag things back on topic (kicking and screaming) - those security checks are a pointless exercise, a swift flash of a torch in a bag is hardly a decent level of security. Reminds me of going through customs in the Gambia once with a friend years ago, he was frisked down by a bored security guard who completely missed the penknife in his pocket.