New Washing Machine - not impressed!

A._Badger

I'm afraid this is (another) price being exacted by the EU's ecoloons, who impose these rules. Cold fill only machines are almost universal because some super genius has decreed they are more 'environmentally friendly' and the slow washing cycle times are, at least in part, designed to use less water.

What few of us realise is that the drive to use less water also results in clothes that aren't sufficiently rinsed. You don't realise this until you actually see the colour of the final rinse water as it leaves the machine - grey and soapy.

Of course, no one asked the consumers.....

Ponkle22

A._Badger wrote: »

What few of us realise is that the drive to use less water also results in clothes that aren't sufficiently rinsed. You don't realise this until you actually see the colour of the final rinse water as it leaves the machine - grey and soapy.

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OMG!!! Earlier onI took out a duvet cover I had bought very cheaply in a sale. It came out with the weirdest markings on it - looked like a white/grey map of train lines. I assumed the duvet cover must have been cheap tat in the first place, but have put it in the (LONG grrr) Rinse (30 mins just to rinse! That is without a spin) to see if it helps - it didn't occur to me that it might be unrinsed washing powder, until I read your comment above.

I will report back with my findings (I'm turning into some washing machine moany old git with nothing better to do here! LOL).

UPDATE: The problem appears to me to be a combination of both! Cheap tat duvet cover where the markings look like crease lines from the machine that have had not properly rinsed water on it and has somehow, not bleached it, but similar. Hmmm.....

fwor

mikeh2000 wrote: »

Unless you're home heating system is instantly hot, ie you dont have to run the hot tap for a few seconds for the hot water to come through, then having a hot fill inlet for your washing machine is no use at all

Unless you do what I used to do, which is to run the hot tap next to the washing machine until it comes through warm, and then start the w/m program. But looks like I won't be doing that any more :-(

Thanks too to Stompa for that link.

alanjuk

fwor wrote: »

Unless you do what I used to do, which is to run the hot tap next to the washing machine until it comes through warm, and then start the w/m program. But looks like I won't be doing that any more :-(

Thanks too to Stompa for that link.

I do exactly the same

justonemore_2

As a guide, the more A's and ++'s in the product literature, the worse the overall wash. With the exception of the 'Spin' related 'A'.

Richie-from-the-Boro

I looked at this two years ago, as far as I remember there are no / none at all hot fill machines for sale in the UK. So looking for free at the which survey would be a waste of time, and paying for the privilege a bigger waste of time.

Spend a nice warm Easter day re-spraying your old one with enamel paint its cheap / works / looks good / and saves about £50 on every £500 quid bill at 30 degrees centigrade.

jackieb

Mine is a cold fill and has a short 30 minute wash. It also has a 60 minute 60 degree wash. But the drum holds twice as much as most machines so it can do 2 loads in the time it'd normally take to do one.

Biggles

fwor wrote: »

I went to the trouble of subscribing to Which? online (at a cost of £1, as above), and that doesn't even refer to H&C fill - it's simply a feature that doesn't appear in the product specs.

In the FAQs, Which? says:-

Should I get a hot-fill washing machine?
Heating water in your boiler is more efficient than heating it in a washing machine, so plumbing a hot water supply into a washing machine usually makes it cheaper to run. But the difference will only really be significant on high-temperature (60°C or 90°C) washing programs.
Manufacturers have all but stopped making hot-fill machines, so buying a used machine is probably the best way to get your hands on one.

jamsandwhich

I was also going to mention about the lack of water used in new machines as two previous posters have.

I quite often put a couple of extra kettles full of water in the dispenser draw at the start of a wash - I also use less powder than the recommended dosage, if I have tablets I only put one in even on heavy soil and the addition of extra water seems to get clothes cleaner (specifically whites).

Washing powders these days seem so harsh on clothes and skin and with all these new things like vanish coming out to get your white clothes white again - I would much rather use more water and less chemical in a wash. And surely it must be cheaper for the water companies to treat more water but with less chemical?

Richie-from-the-Boro

jamsandwhich wrote: »

I was also going to mention about the lack of water used in new machines as two previous posters have.

I quite often put a couple of extra kettles full of water in the dispenser draw at the start of a wash - I also use less powder than the recommended dosage, if I have tablets I only put one in even on heavy soil and the addition of extra water seems to get clothes cleaner (specifically whites).

Washing powders these days seem so harsh on clothes and skin and with all these new things like vanish coming out to get your white clothes white again - I would much rather use more water and less chemical in a wash. And surely it must be cheaper for the water companies to treat more water but with less chemical?

I used to dream of visiting all of the Greek Islands - now I want to visit Balamory to see if the houses really are red, blue, green, yellow and pink!!!

- you can ... from your own mouse ... scroll at street level and all of Tobermory on the Isle of Mull can be had witout even a gallon of fuel spent :beer: