New Washing Machine - not impressed!

Stompa

This is probably worth a read:

http://www.washerhelp.co.uk/buying-related_2.html

aarrgghh

fwor wrote: »

When was the last time you bought a washing machine? There are hundreds of models available - do you check every one?

Don't talk stupid. Of course I don't check every one.

fwor

aarrgghh wrote: »

Of course I don't check every one.

So come on then - tell us: if you're so clever, how do you know which ones have both hot and cold feed?

Ponkle22

bengalknights wrote: »

Did you not check the machine before you bought it, i bought a bosch machine that only has like 5 settings and just 2 knobs on it.

What I did, was use my local non-chain shop, where I have satisfactorily bought my previous BRILLIANT washing machine and a recent tumble drier, asking them which model superceded my brilliant washing machine. I was told which one. I looked up the product review and customer reviews and was naively taken in by the very high Eco rating and fact it was on sale and I am skint. I will however, be even more skint every year now, if I want to perform anything more than a Fast wash.

:mad:

Ponkle22

bcl999 wrote: »

Even dual-fill machines only take in hot water at the 60C wash or higher so it doesn't explain why these new machines are taking so long on low temperature washes. Unless that is the only way to get the clothes clean at these new lower temps of 30C or even 15C i.e. thay have to agitate the clothes for longer.

Interesting, as my machine comes with three Eco settings. Turns out, according to the manual, they use only cold water but the machine has to agitate faster to get it clean. Now, that straight away says to me IMO that this will cause pilling on clothes.

Ponkle22

fwor wrote: »

I went to the trouble of subscribing to Which? online (at a cost of £1, as above), and that doesn't even refer to H&C fill - it's simply a feature that doesn't appear in the product specs.

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Interesting!
:beer:

Ponkle22

Vedder2008 wrote: »

I have just had a new Bosch last Tuesday and I was told they are all cold fill these days, I have a 15 minute programme on it and anything from 1hr. It's brilliant.

I have a 30 minute fast wash on my machine, but then then everything else is excessive in timing if you have really muddy or grubby stuff to wash frequently; which we do.

rockin_plumber

fwor wrote: »

So come on then - tell us: if you're so clever, how do you know which one have both hot and cold feed?

I dont recall installing a H and C fill new washing machine for a few years now, so it looks like they are all cold fill only.

As for hot fill machines, unless your machine is next to the hot water cylinder or under your combi boiler depending on your hot water system, 9 times out of ten if the machine does draw hot water all it will be doing is filling the pipe up with hot water and the machine wont actually get any hot water anyway, just the cold water out of the hot pipe.

Esqui

New machines don't tend to fill the drum right up with water like the old ones, so it takes longer to get the same result. Also, it's worth noting a lot of new machines have much bigger capacities. My Beko (6kg) has a pretty decent quick wash at 30 minutes, but the full cottons cycle (on cold) takes about 90 mins.

One thing I do remember hearing about hot & cold feed machines is that they can cost more, as you pay to heat the water in your tank then by the time it's got to the machine, it's cooled down slightly and has to be reheated in the machine - although I suspect this would only be the case for 90 and possibly 60 degree washes.

LG were the last ones I remember who did H&C washing machines, but don't any more. Possibly worth looking at Miele, too

Ponkle22

Stompa wrote: »

This is probably worth a read:

http://www.washerhelp.co.uk/buying-related_2.html

Extremely good information on this subject. Thanks very much for posting it! :beer::beer::beer::beer:

EDIT: Just read this useful information on the same link page (Wish I'd known this beforehand - so I hope it helps others):

"John Lewis are a great place to buy a washing machine from. They give at least 2 years guarantee on all washing machines and other appliances - and even 3 years on their own brand (plus 5 year guarantees on TV's)".