New Washing Machine - not impressed!

OK_Sauce

bryanb wrote: »

New machines are usually cold fill only, the extra time is to heat up the water.

1 -2 hrs for a cycle is rather excessive though. My bog standard Bosch Classix normally only takes 45 minutes for a standard 40 degree wash cycle going down to 35 mins for a 30 degree wash cycle and that's cold fill only.

bryanb

OK_Sauce wrote: »

1 -2 hrs for a cycle is rather excessive though. My bog standard Bosch Classix normally only takes 45 minutes for a standard 40 degree wash cycle going down to 35 mins for a 30 degree wash cycle and that's cold fill only.

I'd guess it depends on the wattage of the heater. Bosch are not bog standard in most peoples opinions though.

aarrgghh

Is everyone a lazy shopper these days? This is a money saving website and yet people are buying items costing hundreds of pounds without looking at what they are getting. It is not even necessary to go to the shop to do that, there is far more information online about products than the best of sales staff could know. The human brain cannot detail 1000s of products, databases can. Spend a few minutes less on Facebook and a few minute more looking at what you are going to pay for with your hard earned cash.

bryanb

aarrgghh wrote: »

Is everyone a lazy shopper these days? This is a money saving website and yet people are buying items costing hundreds of pounds without looking at what they are getting. It is not even necessary to go to the shop to do that, there is far more information online about products than the best of sales staff could know. The human brain cannot detail 1000s of products, databases can. Spend a few minutes less on Facebook and a few minute more looking at what you are going to pay for with your hard earned cash.

So where can I buy an H&C fill washer?

bcl999

Which? has a washing machine test report this month. You can try out their website acess for £1 for the first month. Might be worth it before you buy a new one. One of their Best Buys was a Beko at £250!

www.which.co.uk

bcl999

bryanb wrote: »

New machines are usually cold fill only, the extra time is to heat up the water.

Even dual-fill machines only take in hot water at the 60C wash or higher so it doesn't explain why these new machines are taking so long on low temperature washes. Unless that is the only way to get the clothes clean at these new lower temps of 30C or even 15C i.e. thay have to agitate the clothes for longer.

fwor

aarrgghh wrote: »

Is everyone a lazy shopper these days?

When was the last time you bought a washing machine? There are hundreds of models available - do you check every one?

I went to the trouble of subscribing to Which? online (at a cost of £1, as above), and that doesn't even refer to H&C fill - it's simply a feature that doesn't appear in the product specs.

And the manufacturers claim about economy is rubbish - it's all about cutting production costs. If they don't fit a hot fill connector and valve, it's £4 more profit for them...

alanjuk

Apparently they are cold fill as it is deemed environmentally unfriendly to fill with water that is hotter than the cycle requires and the machine has to then use cold water to reduce the temperature.

Enterprise_1701C

My washing machine is about 6-7 years old and has hot and cold fill. It still takes abour 1hr 40 mins for a wash, compared to my old one it was rather annoying because it used to take a maximum of about an hour. Am going to have to replace this one within about the next year or so, thinking about a Bosch but getting very confused!!

Vedder2008

I have just had a new Bosch last Tuesday and I was told they are all cold fill these days, I have a 15 minute programme on it and anything from 1hr. It's brilliant.