Suspected of Benefit Fraud

ska_lover

L-Jay wrote: »

1)We ALL pay tax, workers or not.

2) If it's so damn easy and so much fun why don't you quit your job and sign on? Go on, don't tell me, it's a moral obligation to work, a point of principle?

Yes it does install a sense of self respect.

I wouldn't say for a second that I LIKE working long shifts, for example if I won the lottery I would quit or cut my hours - but yes it is a moral obligation to support yourself and your family if you have the means to do so and if you don't have the means to support a family then some questions should be raised as to why certain people have children when they expect others to pay for that life choice.

ska_lover

moonbeam2007 wrote: »

Yes and I'm sure you'd rather have these people's illnesses or disability? no thought not.

Another one! Did you read what this thread is about?? Noone but you and one other poster have mentioned illness or disability - this is about benefits scroungers - the cheats. Please read the thread and educate yourself before further comment.

DX2

This really does look like a discussion :think:

ska_lover

rozmister wrote: »

I don't want sympathy from you or anyone else I was giving an example of a situation where people claim benefits through no fault of their own and don't get enough to live the life of riley you're claiming they do on here.

I mentioned wide screen televisions because generally people who have issues with benefit claimants base this on a stereotype of someone who has a large amount of electrical goods which is reinforced by articles around this theme in the media such as the Daily Mail.

And you posted twice to be abusive about people who are claiming benefits and whinging, a group you lumped me into when I didn't belong there, so I'm responding twice. I'm mimicing your communication so if that shows a poor level of intellect in me what does it say about you?

For the last time I am not a benefit scrounger as you so charmingly put it so I don't know why I'd be trying for sympathy for being something I'm not and to refer to people who get benefits like that is disgusting.

Benefits as a term covers everything from JSA to Income Support to Housing Benefit to Carer's Allowance to Disability Living Allowance and everything else inbetween. If your problem lies solely with the long term unemployed who claim JSA then state that but otherwise you will get people whose experience of benefit claiming is any of the above INCLUDING claiming disability related benefits.

Btw I have noticed that you couldn't actually tackle my points with a valid argument and instead had to resort to making a personal attack on me as an individual. That's cute.

I cannot answer your points as I don't understand what they are. Noone is having a pop at people with disabilities whatsoever - yet you seem to think they are? I think you also need to read the thread and see what this subject is about - as I am not sure why you are posting on here. You clearly have a very different situation to the OP - and I am genuinely sorry for your prediciment, I am not gloating whatsoever - this is not about YOU.

A personal attack on yourself? You resorted to name calling in earlier posts to get what ever point you were trying to make across - I have not name called anyone - I can easily have a debate without resorting to childish behaviour.

I fell you are lumping yourself into some kind of group all by yourself - try and calm down and stop being so touchy.

and PS, if you would like me to tackle your points, please feel free to let me know what they are?

You seem very bitter the fact that you are eating sainsburys basics and working 52 hours a week- you cannot be in a very skilled job to be living like that - hardly suprising given the fact you jump in feet first and don't really know what you are saying - you are making a lot of noise and not really making much sense.

krisskross

moonbeam2007 wrote: »

God your a piece of nasty work aren't you. You can see she clearly stated she was caring for her sick husband and studying also.

So do you have a sick husband to care for?

Can't believe how rude you were to that lady. :mad:

Er yes I do have a sick husband to care for and have had for about 12 years. And I did work until I was able to retire. She's says she is an Accountant so why not look into doing this from home and actually earning money from a skill she already has?

I wasn't rude but I think you are.

GlasweJen

Just for the record not all disabled people get help with OU courses, those of us who manage to work get no help at all so need to hold down a job, study and be disabled all at the same time.

The_mangler

krisskross wrote: »

Er yes I do have a sick husband to care for and have had for about 12 years. And I did work until I was able to retire. She's says she is an Accountant so why not look into doing this from home and actually earning money from a skill she already has?

I wasn't rude but I think you are.

Ive answered your rude question. I am a cost accountant so working from home is a bit of a non starter anyway in my line. -Incidentally, I had to give up work to look after my husband so you were obviously in a much more fortunate position than I am if you were able to continue to work.

Lucky for some eh

GlasweJen

Sorry mangler but you are so rude. Perhaps KK had to go out to work every day worrying about her poor husbands condition but having no choice in working because the benefits weren't as generous 12 years ago and it was her responsibility to keep a roof over her husbands head?

Could you imagine the stress of having to work while your husband is sat at home alone, perhaps with a carer or a neighbour for an hour, worried about losing the house, the impending electric bill and the stresses that just come with working?

MrsE_2

The_mangler wrote: »

Ive answered your rude question. I am a cost accountant so working from home is a bit of a non starter anyway in my line. -Incidentally, I had to give up work to look after my husband so you were obviously in a much more fortunate position than I am if you were able to continue to work.

Lucky for some eh

I work in finance.

Over the years I have worked in various types of roles, but all of a finance/accounts/money/payroll background.

You can branch out a little;)

The_mangler

GlasweJen wrote: »

Sorry mangler but you are so rude. Perhaps KK had to go out to work every day worrying about her poor husbands condition but having no choice in working because the benefits weren't as generous 12 years ago and it was her responsibility to keep a roof over her husbands head?

Could you imagine the stress of having to work while your husband is sat at home alone, perhaps with a carer or a neighbour for an hour, worried about losing the house, the impending electric bill and the stresses that just come with working?

Funnily enough I know just that. Dont assume you know anything about me my love, I have lived with the knowledge my husband may succeed in one of his many suicide attempts for many many years now and even a trip to the village shop can be stressful for fear of knowing what I may find when I get home.

Regardless of how much benefits may or may not be, I have no choice but to stay at home and take care of him, get him to appointments. there is no one else to do it, unless of course I work then leave him to pile more work onto Social Services or in patient MH services. That will cost a lot more than my carers allowance. See my point yet?