What next for North Africa/Middle East?

vivatifosi

To be fair to loopgames michaels I have heard similar from Syrians on the news coverage here: that they don't mind Assad himself, its the rest of the cronies behind him that are a problem. I also heard that it can be relatively peaceful in Damascus. I think Hamish posted similar about Bahrain a while back: a place he has first-hand knowledge of. I don't know either country first hand, the only country experiencing problems that I've been to (a few times) is Tunisia so you could be right, I just want to give lg the benefit of the doubt.

Loopgames

michaels wrote: »

That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Assad Dynasty Party...but then you already knew that as there are no other parties permitted.

How so? The Assad party is the on the same lines as Saddam's bath part who are ruthless and we have family members who have been killed by the latter.

I am merely pointing out the facts here in Damascus..don't like it? Makes me wonder people like yourself prefer hardship for the people in the middleeast and may get a buzz out of some political turbulence. These are the people that concern me most.

Loopgames

vivatifosi wrote: »

To be fair to loopgames michaels I have heard similar from Syrians on the news coverage here: that they don't mind Assad himself, its the rest of the cronies behind him that are a problem. I also heard that it can be relatively peaceful in Damascus. I think Hamish posted similar about Bahrain a while back: a place he has first-hand knowledge of. I don't know either country first hand, the only country experiencing problems that I've been to (a few times) is Tunisia so you could be right, I just want to give lg the benefit of the doubt.

Yep - that's the impression I'm getting too. The ba'ath party militants are corrupt and oppressive. They make life difficult in many ways. But generally the people love their president a lot. You here it in their chants (when the BBC how groups of protests - listen to the chants if you understand arabic - they are pro-assad NOT protesting against him!!!)

sabretoothtigger

If they are shooting rifles at protesters I imagine its dead calm in Damascus.

The tranquillity of oppression vs the tyranny of democracy

Loopgames

sabretoothtigger wrote: »

If they are shooting rifles at protesters I imagine its dead calm in Damascus.

The tranquillity of oppression vs the tyranny of democracy

Interesting - using classic british sarcasm to boost your own propaganda.

Let me project the real image here - I went with another family and my kids to central damascas and we stayed out later than usual because my friends kids never go there and it was a treat for them.

Syrians were out in droves...there's a mountain that over looks the shopping centre and there are beautiful colourful lights enveloping hte mountain like a necklace. I asked my syrian friend what's that there..and she explained that's where all the couples go to court and romance..oooh lala..i took a mental note of that to take my hubby there soon ..I bet the view from there is great at night..kinda like the london eye except higher.

I'll take a piccy next time I venture out there again. But night life is when all the syrians seem to wake up. The shopping 'mall' as they call it was very busy. It's surprisingly expensive - import tax is double the wholesale cost! So things are quite dear even compared to london.

Your imagination is based on what you are fed by our media in so called the freedom countries! lol..as if any country has 100% freedom.

Loopgames

This is so illogical - here I am in Syria and a couple of posters here are more interested in propogating their own understanding of what they think is going on here without basis on fact - surprised at this as I thought many posters would have been interested in understanding the truth rather than lies.

Continue as you were. Don't let me burst your bubble...sheesh

neverdespairgirl

Loopgames wrote: »

Your imagination is based on what you are fed by our media in so called the freedom countries! lol..as if any country has 100% freedom.

You are right, of course. There is no such thing as absolutely freedom - it's a sliding scale.

but Syria does pretty badly on that scale.

Loopgames

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

You are right, of course. There is no such thing as absolutely freedom - it's a sliding scale.

but Syria does pretty badly on that scale.

So is saudi arabia. No mention in the media about that despite protests there too. The UK and the US are buddies with saudi and hate syria. So all this hoo haa interest suddenly in a country that has been going to the dogs for decades is questionable. You need to see all the facts to realise what is really going on. And from what I can gather - Syria is being used as a scapegoat so people like you will ignore the appalling situation that 'friends of the UK/US' are committing.

I hate hypocrisy. Let's not pretend that anyone actually cares about the oppressed syrians in the UK...only what you are made to feel and care about depending on what the media tell you. That's how it has been that is how it will be.

neverdespairgirl

Loopgames wrote: »

I hate hypocrisy. Let's not pretend that anyone actually cares about the oppressed syrians in the UK...only what you are made to feel and care about depending on what the media tell you. That's how it has been that is how it will be.

I'm currently engaged in some pro bono work for Syrians in the UK, so you can take your hypocrisy and shove it.

Loopgames

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I'm currently engaged in some pro bono work for Syrians in the UK, so you can take your hypocrisy and shove it.

The sheeple have spoken.