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  • spike7451
    spike7451 Posts: 6,944 Forumite
    Azari wrote: »
    That is a matter of opinion.

    I find mcdonalds to be quite tasteless.



    A common misconception.

    The Chinese adapted their food to the tastes of the target market and that market, in this country, tended to like things with a lot of salt/MSG.

    If you eat well prepared Chinese food it will have a lot less salt/MSG and is far superior to some of the cheaper high street takeaways. And certainly a million miles from the junk you get at mcdonalds.

    I also find the High Street Take Out's quite tasteless,I prefer a South West Cheese Steak from Subway anytime over a McD ect & I can make far better Southern Fried Chicken myself with just a few simple ingredients in half the time it would take me to order & collect it & for a fraction of the cost.

    As for the Chinese menus,I have lived all over the UK when serving with the RAF as well as in Germany & HK.
    Leaving Honk Kong aside,by far the most superior & tasty Chinese meals I have had were in Germany,the use of proper Chinese ingredients was more prevelent in the dishes compared to what we get in the UK.
    I think,and I'm not limiting this to just Chinese food but the likes of Thai,Indian ect, that the British palate is deliberately toned down & the majority of eaters are scared to try something they don't recognize.
    For example,I worked with a guy who,when we went out for an works doo to an Indian,ate Nann bread & chips because "I'm not eating that foreign muck!" yet he would happily munch on a Ham & Pinapple Pizza..
    I myself have ate from Chinese takeouts where they have used so much MSG it's made me ill,giving me bad chest pains. (I have been tested for food allergies & I cannot eat anything made from/containing or is blue cheese as I'm allergic to Penacillin)
  • rustyboy21
    rustyboy21 Posts: 2,565 Forumite
    edited 31 January 2011 at 12:52PM
    MissUno wrote: »
    It is utterly hilarious to me that people are so angry about some peoples negative view of KFC and animals not being treated humanely.

    Just goes to should how incredibly ignorant some folk are.

    But I like I said before, if my views make me a "toff" then I wear the tag with pride.

    *Looks at clock* Time for bed me thinks.

    It is not the fact that you are talking about negative views on the likes of KFC etc, which is annoying. It is the fact that you are systematically slagging off the people who actually eat the products which is more annoying.

    The fact that the meat ( as you say) hasn't been killed humanely, has only just been brought up in this thread, if i am correct, by you. We were not talking about cruelty, we were talking about quality of the product.

    You have your views, which you feel are right, but it does not mean that you have to force your opinions on everyone else, and calling people chavs because they eat at KFC etc, is not doing the vegetarian cause much good is it really?

    Constructive criticism is fine, but standing on your soap box and slagging off the majority of the population about eating meat isn't.

    No one is perfect in this world after all, are they?
  • tbourner
    tbourner Posts: 1,434 Forumite
    spike7451 wrote: »
    I'm not limiting this to just Chinese food but the likes of Thai,Indian ect, that the British palate is deliberately toned down & the majority of eaters are scared to try something they don't recognize.

    I have a vague recollection of a comedy program with indian actors, who go out 'for an English' in one episode and order the "blandest thing on the menu please". Nice stereotyping as they do all see our food as boring.
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  • Azari
    Azari Posts: 4,317 Forumite
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    tbourner wrote: »
    I have a vague recollection of a comedy program with indian actors, who go out 'for an English' in one episode and order the "blandest thing on the menu please". Nice stereotyping as they do all see our food as boring.

    That was from 'Goodness Gracious Me'.

    One of the funniest sketches from a very funny series.
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  • nomoneytoday
    nomoneytoday Posts: 4,871 Forumite
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    Dave101t wrote: »
    i asked for a whopper meal in mcdonalds before, anyone done that?

    The staff will simply suggest a Big Mac or Quarter Pounder meal instead.
    (Or a Royale with Cheese if you're a Pulp Fiction fan of the metric system)
  • nomoneytoday
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    qetu1357 wrote: »
    Is the Chinese MSG free?
    Would you say using MSG is a good food practice?

    Glutamate (flavour enhancer) occurs naturally in mushrooms...
  • System
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    Azari wrote: »
    That was from 'Goodness Gracious Me'.

    One of the funniest sketches from a very funny series.

    At the Berni inn!

    Great sketch from a great program. Saw them live in York when I was at uni and they were great. I think afterwards I did actually go for a KFC.
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  • bosseyed
    bosseyed Posts: 475 Forumite
    MissUno wrote: »
    My main issue with people who eat stuff like KFC, is my views on animal rights. I certainly do look down my nose at people who don't give a hoot about the conditions the animals their "meat" came from was left in...so long as it's "tasty" or "cheap".

    If you're going to eat slaughter products, at least have the morals to eat meat sourced from an animal that got to live with some humanity and dignity first.

    It's like the Happy Egg people's eggs, turns out their chickens weren't living in very happy conditions. So now if I need eggs, I buy from a local farm.

    The fact we eat so much meat (not personally) is bad enough, the fact we don't care about how the animals treated before we eat it and what chemicals and hormones it's been pumped with that we don't know the long term health dangers of....well that's just pitiful.

    Going vegetarian was the best decision I ever made.

    To to me this is just the most cliched pro veggie, anti meat sentiments that every new vegetarian seems to subscribe to - as if suddenly turning veggie was like giving up the evil crack of meat and dragging yourself from the dark gutters of meatville where we all thrash around in filth and sesame seed buns, cramming trotters in our gaping maws, and going to live in sunshine and flowers in vegetarian land where you can skip and hold hands whilst eating mung beans and shafts of pure light shine down upon you and wherever you go you're accompanied by choirs of Quorn angels.

    I think its hard to hold any kind of moral high ground if you're just a basic vegetarian - surely our respect should go to the vegans, who eshew all animal products of any description and must instead live off rocks, soap and brick dust.

    I tend to think of loudly trumpeting vegetarians bleating on about the evils of meat, yet conveniently forgetting about their animal based ingredients in many of their foods and wearing their leather shoes and belts.

    And I must just check - you're not one of these 'vegetarians' who will still eat fish are you, as if in some strange way a fish was not an animal....
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    MissUno wrote: »
    It's like the Happy Egg people's eggs, turns out their chickens weren't living in very happy conditions. So now if I need eggs, I buy from a local farm.

    A 'local farm' is no more likely to have decent animal welfare conditions than anywhere else. If it doesn't say free-range on the box, the hens aren't free-range regardless of it being some quaint middle-class smallholding or a big commercial egg production site. It costs more money to be free-range and it's often smaller places that don't feel able to justify this cost. Of course I have no idea what the free-range status of MissUno's local farm is; I just felt compelled to point this out. I do tire of the big and commercial = bad, small and local = good argument when it's simply not always the case.
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  • cgk1
    cgk1 Posts: 1,300 Forumite
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    Azari wrote: »

    The Chinese adapted their food to the tastes of the target market and that market, in this country, tended to like things with a lot of salt/MSG.

    If you eat well prepared Chinese food it will have a lot less salt/MSG and is far superior to some of the cheaper high street takeaways. And certainly a million miles from the junk you get at mcdonalds.

    Yep, I have a Chinese friend and what he serves me at home is nothing like the stuff he serves up in his take-away. He once tried to do a healthy sweet and sour sauce but the customers complained that he was ripping them off, so he put all the crap back in. The sad fact is that a lot of people are so used to processed food that they need everything to be rammed full of sugar and salt.
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