Number plate requirements

molerat

Mustard_Dave wrote: »

If the plates are otherwise legal in terms of font, character spacing, size, background colour etc., I don't see what there is to worry about:

1. It would never get spotted.
2. Even if it did it would be the supplier who would be guilty of any offence.

Offences under section 59 of the Act

19.—(1) For the purposes of section 59(1) of the Act (regulations: offences), the person responsible for complying with these Regulations is the person driving the vehicle or, where it is not being driven, the person keeping it.

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mikey72

liam8282 wrote: »

Genuine question:

What is the offence of not having the suppliers post code? It does not meet the British Standard, but what is the offence that has been committed and what is the punishment for that offence?

The plates will confirm to the BS, in everything that they don't have the suppliers details.

The BS is not the legal requirement.

BTW, I posted the list of offences earlier, as set out by the DVLA. Not having suppliers details is not an offence.

The regs

The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001

state

PART 1

VEHICLES REGISTERED AND NEW REGISTRATION PLATES FITTED ON OR AFTER 1ST SEPTEMBER 2001 (MANDATORY SPECIFICATION)

1. The plate must be made of retroreflecting material which, as regards its construction, colour and other qualities, complies with the requirements of—
(a)the British Standard specification for retroreflecting number plates published on 15 January 1998 under number BS AU 145d(1), or
(b)any other relevant standard or specification recognised for use in an EEA State and which, when in use, offers a performance equivalent to that offered by a plate complying with the British Standard specification,


The introduction of a mandatory requirement for the use of registration plates conforming to British Standard specification BS AU 145d or an equivalent standard laid down by an EEA State (in this note called “the mandatory plates”) on all vehicles first registered on or after 1st September 2001 and on other vehicles registered on or after 1st January 1973 if an existing plate is replaced. (See regulation 10 and Schedule 2.)

So whatever BS AU 145d says, is the legal requirement
And that specifies the postcode, etc.

Gene_Hunt_2

liam8282 wrote: »

Genuine question:

What is the offence of not having the suppliers post code? It does not meet the British Standard, but what is the offence that has been committed and what is the punishment for that offence?

The plates will confirm to the BS, in everything that they don't have the suppliers details.

The BS is not the legal requirement.

BTW, I posted the list of offences earlier, as set out by the DVLA. Not having suppliers details is not an offence.

See #30.................

liam8282

mikey72 wrote: »

The regs

The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001

state

The introduction of a mandatory requirement for the use of registration plates conforming to British Standard specification BS AU 145d or an equivalent standard laid down by an EEA State (in this note called “the mandatory plates”) on all vehicles first registered on or after 1st September 2001 and on other vehicles registered on or after 1st January 1973 if an existing plate is replaced. (See regulation 10 and Schedule 2.)

So whatever BS AU 145d says, is the legal requirement
And that specifies the postcode, etc.

I get that, but there is no actual punishable offence listed by the DVLA?

I am confused now. It is a legal requirement to follow the BS, but not an offence if you don't?

Or the DVLA are just wrong in the information they have issued?

mikey72

liam8282 wrote: »

I get that, but there is no actual punishable offence listed by the DVLA?

I am confused now. It is a legal requirement to follow the BS, but not an offence if you don't?

Or the DVLA are just wrong in the information they have issued?

It's a £60 fine if you don't and the police decide to stop and fine you.
Normally it's a warning to change them.
It is an offence under
The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001
which states the plates must be made to the BS
The BS states the requirements.

(It's a different offence to not displaying a plate at all)

Gloomendoom

The plates could be perfectly legal... if the OP's car is old enough.

He doesn't say though.

mikey72

Don't think it'll be a pre 73 on black and silver plates somehow.

Inactive

liam8282 wrote: »

I get that, but there is no actual punishable offence listed by the DVLA?

I am confused now. It is a legal requirement to follow the BS, but not an offence if you don't?

Or the DVLA are just wrong in the information they have issued?

I think that you were confused from the outset.:)

jase1

Assuming the spacing and overall quality closely matches the standards.....

I'm not in any way advocating you use these plates (proper ones from a Motor Factor are cheap enough) BUT... lots of s/h cars come with a label over the original postcode section, with the last dealer's details. If similar stickers were put on these plates, I would suspect that it would be very difficult for the authorities to identify the plates as fakes.

I'd still head down to the local factor though if I were you...

liam8282

Inactive wrote: »

I think that you were confused from the outset.:)

Only because of the information published by the DVLA.