19 Seeking a reasonable wage

Fine

I dont think im better im just explaining that many unemployed are that because they refuse to work for minimum wage, I personally know of at least 10 people off the top of my head.

Ive been told that im capabable of progressing but I plain and simply do not want to work in these conditions any longer.

wantsajob

Fine wrote: »

I plain and simply do not want to work in these conditions any longer.

Hundreds of thousands of others would gladly take your place.

Weight it all up.

Current job with some money - vs - no job and no money, probably with people continuously on your back to get a job.

Sadly brown nosing is what work is all about. They tried to subtly teach this at school but in the real world it's all far worse. You'd be treat pretty similar wherever you worked TBH.

Person_one wrote: »

Although maybe your contempt for your colleagues will be an obstacle to promotion, try not to call them idiots, after all you couldn't do any better either could you?

Maybe they could. Most managers are to$$ers who got where they are because they are to$$ers - but being one does not make you a good manager - people do not always respond well to someone talking down at them all the time, despite popular opinion.

Gordon_Hose

I'm redundant in March. I'd work in McDonalds if things got tough. I'd work at minimum wage if it meant I had money coming in, anything is better than signing on.

Person_one

Fine wrote: »

I dont think im better im just explaining that many unemployed are that because they refuse to work for minimum wage, I personally know of at least 10 people off the top of my head.

Ive been told im good enough for a promotion and told regularly that im capabable of progressing but I plain and simply do not want to work in these conditions any longer.

I'm so glad you're here to explain it! Now would you have a word with Iain Duncan Smith? :rotfl:

McDonald's is great training for the world of work. Its messy, smelly, tiring, you're on your feet all the time, you get abuse from all and sundry, you're under pressure to move fast and meet targets and get treated like crap by almost everybody above you from your shift runners to the CEO.

The longer you can stick it out the more you'll appreciate every other job you'll ever have!

MrsTinks

When I was 18 I got a sales job for £10k a year - we're talking 13 years ago... infact for the first 2 years of my working life I was on 10k - but there wasn't a recession on, unemployement wasn't high and I worked hard to get the jobs I had... You need to sell yourself as something that your employer WANTS... I started one job as a call agent... left as acting manager... I volunteered to do all the dull managerial stuff, reports etc... never asked for paying for it... made myself irreplacable and got to a point where I could point out to my manager that I was the only person who could do his job when he was off... how's about a change of job title and salary unless you're telling me that you should be on a lower salary too? (Said in a very tongue in cheek way!) - that was in my mid twenties!

at 19 in the state the country is in you will have to work even HARDER to prove you are worth promoting - thinking of and probably treating other employees like they are village idiots would be the first obstacle... whether someone is dumb or slow should not be something you concern yourself with right now. You need to prove that you are MORE than everyone else by being better, not by belittling them. If you think of them as village idiots, you will show this in how you treat and interact with them... not pretty in the eyes of a manager who might be your ticket upwards!

BackOnTrack

So apart from coming on here to have a whine at how hard your life is what have you done to actually improve things? If you want to make more money go and get yourself some skills. Try taking a look at what you need to become a plumber, electrician, pilot or what ever it is you think you want to do and then go and do it because no one is going to come along and hand it to you.

Life sucks get a helmet.

Gordon_Hose

*puts helmet on*

Ketchup21

I usually just read posts here but I've registered to reply to this thread.

I'm 19 and I'm earning above 16k so it can be done but I do feel like I've been very lucky. I started on an apprenticeship when I was 18, so I was able to get experience and honestly the pay wasn't that bad although obviously the pay will vary depending the company.

I really think that's the best way to get into things now, like you said work from the bottom up. If you get in with a company, even if the pay isn't that great, maybe someone will retire or leave and you'd be able to apply for their job.

The public sector (where I live at least) is really under represented with 16-24 year olds, so a lot of training opportunities seem to be popping up. If you want to earn above 11k try searching council websites for vacancies, as many still seem to be hiring despite all the redundancies. Or there's plenty of apprenticeship websites around, if you're happy sacrificing a year or two of not so great pay.

DCFC79

Fine wrote: »

I dont think im better im just explaining that many unemployed are that because they refuse to work for minimum wage, I personally know of at least 10 people off the top of my head.

Ive been told that im capabable of progressing but I plain and simply do not want to work in these conditions any longer.

ok so you dont want to work in macccy dees anymore so what do you want to do, would you go back to college to do a course

FATBALLZ

Call centres paid around £14-16k when I worked in one (briefly) 7 years ago. You could try them. Although job satisfaction probably won't be much better.