Will my benefits get stopped?

Gordon_Hose

Flyboy152 wrote: »

And there we have it. Rather claim dole than work.

Now read the post properly.

Flyboy152

orangeboy1988 wrote: »

Like what?

Why do so many posters think I only want to apply for a job that is career related?
Whilst on JSA, you should apply to anything that comes your way, and not wait for the 'perfect job'.

Yes, that is exactly what you should do. There are millions of people who are genuinely seeking employment and would gladly take any job they can find and not have to take benefits. This, quite frankly, is a bit of an insult to them.

Flyboy152

morganedge wrote: »

maybe he means claiming jsa 'wins' at being the most soul destroying

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Now read the post properly.

I see the point. :embarasse :doh:

Oldernotwiser

orangeboy1988 wrote: »

I was booked in to see Connexions today but I telephoned and cancelled. The Jobcentre booked me in, probably because I had no career aspiration and I asked for interview advice. I went online to see what exactly I had been booked in for and I had been referred to NEXT STEPS. This service is for adults but mainly for those who are disabled and with physical abilities.

What we expect from you:
To complete our client enquiry form on your first contact with us.
To be as clear as possible on what you want from us.
To let us know in advance if you are unable to keep an appointment.
To give us feedback on the service you received by completing our survey, this helps us to make improvements.

The one in bold is the main reason why I cancelled my appointment... I have NO idea what career I want out of the appointment, I am extremely demotivated and very fed up. I have been to connexions in the past and if you don't have an idea of what you want to do, they are pretty useless and I come out feeling even more down. I have also been to my university careers service and they were equally as bad. You have to have a career plan or a job in mind before they can offer there service. I mean, if I haven't a clue what I want to do and I am unmotivated, do not like anything, what am I expect to say to them?

I assume they'll inform the Jobcentre, will I get my benefits cancelled?

Thanks for any replies.

I'm a Careers Adviser and I've worked for Nextstep.You're completely wrong that the service is primarily for adults with disabilities; my clients included all ages and aspirations, including redundant executives who earned 4 times my salary!

You have completely misunderstood the sentence you have highlighted above, which is worrying for a graduate who should have excellent comprehension skills. You are being asked (and it seems pretty clear to me) to know what you want to get from the interview, not what career you want. You might want help with writing a CV, interview techniques or job hunting generally or you might want general careers advice or help with planning your next career move.

I don't know whether you'll be sanctioned but I rather hope you will. You've wasted an hour of the advisor's time and taken an opportunity which could have been used by someone else, all because you couldn't be bothered to read a simple sentence!

liam8282

orangeboy1988 wrote: »

I assume they'll inform the Jobcentre, will I get my benefits cancelled?

Thanks for any replies.

Hopefully!

Why should you be entitled to claim JSA or other benefits if you are not actively seeking any employment?

Your main reason, being demotivated and not knowing what you want to do is just laughable.

Why don't you look at the jobs available and see what appeals?
Offer your time as a volunteer in places you like the look of?
Compare your qualifications with jobs you could possibly apply for?

There is so much you could be doing.

Also cancelling appointments with the organisations that are trying to find you employment is very stupid, and also just making these appointments just so that benefits don't get stopped is just plain wrong.

Then again you can't really blame the people who do this, it is the entire system that is wrong and needs overhauling.

Pete111

orangeboy1988 wrote: »

I do not have a career in mind, this does not make me bone idol or not wanting a job.

Neither did I - I just took a job to increase my skills and avoid the dole. This maybe worth a try? Self confidence and self worth is unlikely to be gleaned via daytime TV....

This is my belief too. Do I need a Connexions adviser to tell me this? Would you of benefited from an adviser telling you this?[/QUOTE]

No I wouldn't have but then again I didn't claim benefits. You want the free money tax payers rightly provide to those making an effort? Then you jump through the hoops....

Pete111

orangeboy1988 wrote: »

Pete111 wrote: »

I believe I am complying to what it says in my Jobseekers agreement, it doesn't say anything about Connexions adviser.

I didn't believe at the time the adviser would be able to help me (I am probably wrong). Hence why I cancelled it and hoped someone else could of taken the time. I think this is better than going and having the wrong attitude. (Now, that IS a waste of money and time)

I hope they prove useful and good luck.

liam8282

orangeboy1988 wrote: »

That is not true. I am actively seeking employment.

But looking at the other threads you have posted on, you went to the Job Centre and rejected quite a few opportunities that have already been made available to you.

The Job Centre said they could get you an interview as a car salesman, at £25k pa, but you turned it down because you know nothing about cars?! Yet you do drive, or at least have a driving licence, and surely training would be given on the job, as it is with any new job.

You also said there have been other jobs that you could have applied for, but you haven't because you don't want a full time job, you don't want to work 7 or 8 hours a day! Sorry but that is the standard for anybody working full time.

Another reason you haven't been applying for jobs is because you are due to have a Jaw operation in Feb / Mar, and you believe this will give a bad impression of you to any new employer. Even though I would say any new employer takes note of any pre booked absences that are to be expected from new employees, and this is no reason to not be applying for jobs.

How long exactly would you miss from work with a Jaw operation? A week at most?![/QUOTE]

orangeboy1988 wrote: »

For not knowing what career I want to do?
I am demotivated and unsure about a career, it doesn't matter right now. getting a job is important though.


I am looking at jobs available. I am not applying for jobs that are career specific, just applying for anything I am able to do.

Volunteering, I did that, ironically, for MIND charity. I think I definitely should do this again.

Volunteering should be done on the basis that you are actually gaining something from it too, be that widening your skills and knowledge, or broadening your prospects of actually getting a paid job from the place you are volunteering at.

orangeboy1988 wrote: »

Qualifications, my highest is a degree and it is in politics. This is pretty useless to be at the moment (without a career in mind), it is much better for me to apply for any jobs first whist I decide what I want to do).

I do think I could do a lot more.

Having a degree, you will more than likely have good gcse's and a levels. Just because your degree is in politics, it does not mean you need only apply for jobs in politics, the degree should help you in other aspects of life also.

orangeboy1988 wrote: »

I have already said I was ignorant in what the service was and going to ring them back up and get an appointment and start again.

You also need to be more open minded about the jobs you apply for, if you really did want a job you would apply for anything that was available to you and you would grasp at every opportunity of an interview.

Even if you think you don't want to work in a place, how will you know unless you try it? Right now you are limiting yourself and your options.

Flyboy152

orangeboy1988 wrote: »

This is absolutely not true.

Regarding the job, you make a judgement. I decided and the adviser supported me, that the car salesman job would not be suitable. Training may of have been given on the job BUT training is usually on the skills required to sell, sales techniques etc. I do not know anything about cars, one that knows nothing about cars would not be a great car salesman and especially when the wage is 25K a year. That is my judgement and the adviser agreed with me, this has got nothing to do with this thread. You obviously would of applied for it..... fine, that is your judgement. I chose not to as I didn't believe I was qualified enough.
You claim I drive... I do NOT drive and do not own a driving licence that allows me to drive. I own a provisional driving licence, however.

Trust me, you not need to know much about cars to be able to sell them, as long as you have the training. Most franchised dealers will give relevant training. I have met many people who would know their exhaust from their headlights, but they can be very successful car salespeople.

Gordon_Hose

Some people just don't make good salesmen though.