Can you refuse job applications that the jobseekers set you up for?

Indie_Kid

November5th wrote: »

I really think the JC need to sort out this apply for anything system. I got a print out for doing PR for a five star hotel. I wouldn't have a clue!
It is surreal. There are enough jobs for me to work hard at applying for without that. I think there will be so many people and so few jobs they will find it difficult to keep it up. If I was a employer I would not advertise with the JC because of this policy.

When I've had jobs suggested to me, I've always been asked "is that job <reads through job description> ok for you?". The adviser did that on Thursday and after me asking him where this place is, I agreed that this is ok to apply for. Since then, I've applied for that job, plus another 2.

Googlewhacker

shikoku wrote: »

It's 90 minutes not miles, still ridiculous for a part time minimum wage job.

Depends whether you have a negative view or not, as a means to an end it is a good thing as you show willing and you can improve on the job alot easier whilst in work compared to not in work.

If you have no ambition to improve then maybe not quite so worth it

Evilm

DO NOT accept a print out of a job from the jobcentre unless you are prepared to apply. They will mark you as non compliant if you do not apply and they have marked your for it.

If you do have to apply for for something that you don't feel is suitable there is no reason why you have to do a good job on it... you still have applied. Depending on your area 15-20 miles could be be an ok commute as it is for me but it will depend on the specific location of the role. In my area I have some 20 miles away I can apply for but some only 5 miles away I couldn't get to you public transport so it does differ.

J-Pop

mountainofdebt wrote: »

The OP has already stated that he see the 'demands' of the JC as getting in the way of what he wants to do - well tough. As has been previously stated he only has to apply for the job and if the OP can't spend the minimum amount of time actually applying for jobs (if only to keep the JC happy) then the OP shouldn't, imo, be claiminig Jobseeker's Allowance.

Apart from me wanting to study something else, i am activley seeking work every day, i check a dozen or more websites every day and send my CVs away to employers which i think i have experience in.

The job that got printed out for me the last time i visited the JC was as i said over 15 miles away and on the description it said that experience and a licence to do the job was essential.

I don't understand why they suggest i apply for this job which i have never had experience in or hold the type of license they need when it plainly states that experience is essential to get this job.

Sambucus_Nigra

J-Pop wrote: »

I don't understand why they suggest i apply for this job which i have never had experience in or hold the type of license they need when it plainly states that experience is essential to get this job.

What did they say when you asked them this question?

shikoku

I have had the entire bizarre experience; I was coerced into applying for a job for which I had no relevant experience or training. I didn't waste my breath arguing about my suitability because the 'adviser' had that target driven gleam in their eye.

I duly made my application and amazingly I got an interview (I do a good job application:)). I was still fully aware that I was quite unsuitable for the role but unable to alert the employer to this because that would be to risk a sanction.

I had no option but to attend the interview knowing full well that all concerned were having their time wasted by the JCP.

About 10 minutes in, the interviewer visibly (and I'm afraid quite entertainingly) suddenly became fully aware of what the JCP had done, she began speaking twice as fast and then very hurriedly ushered me out of the building.

Needless to say I did not get the job, but I had fulfilled my obligations.

I doubt very much if the employer will use the JCP to recruit again and who would blame them?

It is a silly game!

mountainofdebt

J-Pop wrote: »

I don't understand why they suggest i apply for this job which i have never had experience in or hold the type of license they need when it plainly states that experience is essential to get this job.

Did you ask them ?

I would ask them is it a case of applying for any old job - in that case I would have said is there any brain surgery jobs going....haven't got the qualifications or experience but it will meet your critea of me for a job or is it a case of applying for jobs that I have a realistic chance of being interviewed for.

J-Pop

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

What did they say when you asked them this question?

I said i would like to apply for any nightshift work maybe in a warehouse driving a forklift or something but the woman could have not read the job description properly, when i got home and read it, it said that the job was working in a high speed warehouse outlet and a counter balance licence was essential for the job.

I have worked as a machine setter for the past 20 years but there are not much jobs advertised for this now, and as i got trained up within my original workplace 20 years ago, i don't have any official papers that i would have got if i had went to college.

Anyway i never applied for the job because of this so probably will get into trouble now.

I see now that you just need to go along with everything they give you.

RacyRed

MrChandlerBing wrote: »

I'll never understand why people think they are entitled to job seekers allowance when they aren't seeking work. They aren't paying you to make you a better prospect, if they were I would leave my job and get them to pay for courses to make me earn more money. The burden of that is on you.

Errr, not the case. We were both very activelty seeking work.

The jobs she (and I) were being put forward for paid substantially less (about 3/4 less) than the jobs we had been made redundant from. We both have specialist skills but there were absolutely NO vancancies in our field in the UK and the job centre were completely aware of that, it was very, very easy for them to check on that.

I was genuinely applying for jobs all over the world and was able to show a lot of evidence of that.

The training I'm talking about was for jobs at the very bottom of the field we had been in, effectively we were both over qualified and lacked the practical experience required for those jobs. Which was why my friend decided that any job was better than none, so paid for her own training to give herself a better chance at getting one of the jobs that were available.

Isn't that exactly the type of active, job seeking approach she should have been taking?

dmg24

J-Pop wrote: »

I said i would like to apply for any nightshift work maybe in a warehouse driving a forklift or something but the woman could have not read the job description properly, when i got home and read it, it said that the job was working in a high speed warehouse outlet and a counter balance licence was essential for the job.

I have worked as a machine setter for the past 20 years but there are not much jobs advertised for this now, and as i got trained up within my original workplace 20 years ago, i don't have any official papers that i would have got if i had went to college.

Anyway i never applied for the job because of this so probably will get into trouble now.

I see now that you just need to go along with everything they give you.

Could you not have read it whilst you were sat with her?

Who do you do voluntary PC repair work for - is it a charity?