Tumble Dryer install

modelreject

@OK Sauce Just need to be convinced by condenser dryers

I heard it takes longer to dry clothes. How long would it takes yours to dry a full load?

Also, my kitchen is very small and suffers from condensation while cooking. Which tumble dryer would be best to keep condenstaion low, vented or condensing. Maybe they both work okay in small spaces?

Thanks for all the advice!!

savemoney

I seem to recall a vented tumble dryer is more economical to run

found some useful info on tumbles below.

http://www.johnlewis.com/magazine/feature.aspx?id=8
http://www.which.co.uk/home-and-garden/laundry-and-cleaning/guides/how-to-buy-the-best-tumble-dryer/tumble-dryer-types/



Electric vented tumble dryers

Vented tumble dryers take warm, damp air from the drum and vent it out through a hose. Almost all vented tumble dryers are electric.

• Pros Electric vented tumble dryers are cheaper and generally use less energy than condenser models.
• Cons Vented tumble dryers need to be positioned near a window or door to vent the air away.

Vented tumble dryer prices

About £100 will buy you an entry-level vented tumble dryer. A top-of-the range vented model will be about £700.




Electric condenser tumble dryers

Electric condenser tumble dryers remove moist warm air from the drum. It's then cooled inside the machine, and the resulting water is collected in a removable reservoir.

• Pros A condenser tumble dryer can be installed anywhere – it doesn't need to be near a window or wall. Because water from the drum is collected, steam isn’t an issue.
• Cons Choose a poor condenser dryer and you'll still have to cope with damp air and the possibility of mildew. You need to empty the reservoir regularly.

also list of how much some cost to run

http://www.sust-it.net/energy_saving.php?id=41

modelreject

Thanks savemoney


I will be opting for a vented one for many reasons. Now to decide whetehr to vent it to the side of the house or back.

jennifernil

modelreject wrote: »

@WestonDave Thanks. Would like to stay away from vents like that and if it's possible/common, have the condense pipe go outside to a normal drain pipe?

The pipe is on the back of the dryer. This is the one I am looking at...http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?pws=0&hl=en&num=10&q=Hotpoint+TVM570P&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=5789341904529240582&ei=nQw2TdqSCNCChQfOn4zjCw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=reviews&resnum=3&ved=0CEMQ9AIwAg&os=reviews

The vented dryers do not condense the water to discharge it, they produce warm, damp air, that is why the venting kit consists of a 100mm diameter hose that discharges the damp air.

This hose has to be fixed onto a solid pipe that goes through the wall, this pipe needs to be sealed against the plaster/brickwork so that dampness cannot get into the wall structure.

On the outside you need to fit some type of cowl with a flap or grille over the pipe to stop birds or other creatures getting into the pipe.

To my mind, this pipe must take up some space, as per my previous post, this is why I think you need to look at it and how the vent hose fits, so you can be sure you have enough space to fit it. It is not just as simple as making a hole and pushing the dryer back against it.

Some tips here.....

http://www.dryerhelp.co.uk/buying-advice.html

and here

http://www.espares.co.uk/advice/tumble-dryers/a/9/114/how-a-tumble-dryer-works.html

savemoney

When I have our tumble on which isnt often you can smell the warm air blowing down a narrow passageway we have between garage and neighbours boundary walls. The flap for venting kit doesn't open much from what I se likewise we only had it fitted in September and probably only used it a few times when we are really desperate to dry clothes, we normally using a washing line when we can

I am sure I worked out a while back it costs 50p a load to dry but now on reflection that does seem high given hat we pay per kWh

modelreject

Okay. Pretty clued up now thanks o everyone here. We will be putting the TD in the corner of the kitchen against outside walls and vent will go out rear wall. May have to cut a hole in out kitchen units to get an arm in to attached and direct the vent pipe through the wall properly. Reason is that is is a closed space so once the TD is pushed in under the counter slightly there is no way to get to the back. Thanks again everyone!

jonty1970

My ex made a hole through the wall with a huge chissel and a large bit on the drill. it was messy but it worked.
We bought a kit from Screwfix. He sealed all the edges up so the damp didn't come back in the room.
it doesn't look pretty, but it works and you can't see it anyway

modelreject

Okay. This dryer has great reviews. Anyone here got it. How much space should I allow at the back between the dryer and outside wall? I don't think there will be much.

jennifernil

That is the bit that worries me!

The vent on the drier is normally pretty near floor level, but you will not want a hole in your wall that low down. And the only way for it not to need extra depth for the vent hose is if you have the vent and wall vent perfectly lined up, which I reckon is impossible.

Normally you would have the wall vent higher up, so the hose sits in a sort of "Z" shape when in place, and since the hose in a vent kit is normally about 2 metres long when stretched out, you can attach both ends and then push the dryer carefully back.

So you need a space between the back of the dryer and the wall of at least 150mm I reckon.

This obviously means you cannot push the dryer right back under the worktop. This is why we have our vent on the side of the drier and the hose sits in an unused corner we have that has water and heating pipes and pumps in it.

If you cannot fit in the hose, you should probably consider a condenser dryer.

frank.hopper

jennifernil wrote: »

That is the bit that worries me!

The vent on the drier is normally pretty near floor level, but you will not want a hole in your wall that low down.

It doesn't matter if the hole is low down, why should it?

jennifernil wrote: »

And the only way for it not to need extra depth for the vent hose is if you have the vent and wall vent perfectly lined up, which I reckon is impossible.

I did one a couple of months ago and it was almost bang on! critical measurement is a must, also checking if the floor runs high or low, back to front/side to side where the appliance will finally sit helps, but it's achievable. There's no reason for a 'Z' shaped hose if you take your time and calculate properly. Some dryers can be quite deep, no one really wants a dryer 150mm proud of a worktop