Grandad losing his house!

Oldernotwiser

Errata wrote: »

The private rooms in NHS hospitals are called Amenity Beds. Patients pay the 'hotel' costs and all treatment is free.

Aren't those just the private rooms on the ordinary ward? I was thinking of something like this, which was the situation on the Isle of Wight, where my husband was treated privately.

http://www.iow.nhs.uk/index.asp?record=648

although I see that they have amenity beds in there as well as on the wards.

Another example here.

http://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/services/privatepatients/homepage.aspx

Blitz01

chriz1 wrote: »

Hi,
Recently my elderly gran has past away,
She was caring for my grandad who hasnt been able to walk for the past few years and is losing his mind a little bit as all the family work full time,he might have to go into a care home,
He bought his council house some 30 or so years ago.
And also has a bit of savings.
Now if this is the case he will have to pay for his keep.And sell the house to fund it.
I find this so unfair the guy has worked so hard all his life and has to sell his house something he's worked for :mad: is there anyway around this?
Any Advice please

Unfair?
On who....your grandad? This isnt what you are getting at...you are thinking more of your inheritance.

I have also worked, and continue to work hard everyday of my life, so why should I pay for your grandad when he can pay for himself?

Blitz01

Barneysmom wrote: »

I agree nannytone.
That's why as soon as my mortgage is paid off we're signing our house over to our daughter.
I've worked all my life, got a private pension that I've paid into all my working life, I've paid into the system all my life so what I own is mine and the government aren't having a penny of it.

So hopefully, with that attitude in mind, you children will sell the house from under you, and lket you pee yourself in the gutter when you are a dribbling mess.

bryanb

goffo wrote: »

I never knew that. Thanks for the links. Does it mean that if I go in through A&E can I then be allocated a private bed instead of a general ward?

Hard to believe, after reading your posts, that you would even consider it.

Errata

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Aren't those just the private rooms on the ordinary ward? I was thinking of something like this, which was the situation on the Isle of Wight, where my husband was treated privately.

http://www.iow.nhs.uk/index.asp?record=648

although I see that they have amenity beds in there as well as on the wards.

Another example here.

http://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/services/privatepatients/homepage.aspx

I suspect the hospitals you've quoted have both amenity beds for NHS patients willing to pay hotel costs for the privacy of a single room, and a 'private wing' for patients whose treatment etc is covered by health insurance eg BUPA. Very common in London hospitals with particular specialisms such as Moorfields.

margaretclare

goffo wrote: »

I never knew that. Thanks for the links. Does it mean that if I go in through A&E can I then be allocated a private bed instead of a general ward?

You could, provided that there is one available. When my DH was in hospital in the autumn of 2008 he couldn't get a wink of sleep from the constant noise and disturbance. I wanted to pay for him to have an amenity bed, but there weren't any available. All the single rooms were in use for 'more urgent' cases. In fact he spent one night in a single room but was turfed out of it because it was needed for an infectious patient.

Actually, if you're admitted from the waiting list for planned surgery you always get a leaflet offering you a private room and the price list. Approx £70 a day if I remember correctly. But again, the caveat: if there is a room available. DH is going for planned surgery in 4 weeks' time but as it's only likely to be one night, or at most 2, we shan't bother with a private room. We both pay into SimplyHealth so we do get money back for things like that.

Paid into these two for years but never thought about claiming to be a private patient. The only times I have been in hospital is via A&E. That happens about 3/4 times a year and am generally kept in for a couple of weeks at a time. I think I will have to look at the paperwork which I have in some dusty file somewhere. I keep paying the two premiums in the expectation that if I needed a quick op sometime, I could use one or the other.

I used to pay in to PPP, later AXA. The arrangement with most of these private schemes usually is: if the NHS waiting time is more than 6 weeks, you can go private under the scheme you're paying in for.

Once I stopped working I could no longer afford this, and the premiums go up astronomically as you get older.

I am most surprised at your comments about private healthcare, given that you're quite happy about living on what you call a 'rough' council estate.

I must clarify, I grew up in dire poverty myself, my family were far poorer than anyone nowadays simply because there were no benefits. However I was a country child and could NOT live in any urban area, certainly not in a council estate!

Oldernotwiser

goffo wrote: »

I never knew that. Thanks for the links. Does it mean that if I go in through A&E can I then be allocated a private bed instead of a general ward?

I have another health scheme that I belong to - Benenden, which has its own hospital in the South, but uses NHS & private hospitals all over the UK. I wonder if I could use that as well.

Paid into these two for years but never thought about claiming to be a private patient. The only times I have been in hospital is via A&E. That happens about 3/4 times a year and am generally kept in for a couple of weeks at a time. I think I will have to look at the paperwork which I have in some dusty file somewhere. I keep paying the two premiums in the expectation that if I needed a quick op sometime, I could use one or the other.

My husband was admitted to the private wing in the IOW from A&E, so it's definitely possible.

Oldernotwiser

Errata wrote: »

I suspect the hospitals you've quoted have both amenity beds for NHS patients willing to pay hotel costs for the privacy of a single room, and a 'private wing' for patients whose treatment etc is covered by health insurance eg BUPA. Very common in London hospitals with particular specialisms such as Moorfields.

I'm sure they do. That's why I explained that private care exists alongside state care in NHS hospitals.

Oldernotwiser

margaretclare wrote: »

[/B]You could, provided that there is one available. When my DH was in hospital in the autumn of 2008 he couldn't get a wink of sleep from the constant noise and disturbance. I wanted to pay for him to have an amenity bed, but there weren't any available. All the single rooms were in use for 'more urgent' cases. In fact he spent one night in a single room but was turfed out of it because it was needed for an infectious patient.!

That's certainly true in the case of amenity beds but may well be less so if someone has insurance or can pay for full private treatment.

SingleSue

margaretclare wrote: »

[/B].
I must clarify, I grew up in dire poverty myself, my family were far poorer than anyone nowadays simply because there were no benefits. However I was a country child and could NOT live in any urban area, certainly not in a council estate!

I have the best of both worlds here, social housing but in a rural setting with lovely fields around. The social housing (all ex council, now housing association), covers only a couple of streets, a mix of bungalows for the elderly and family homes and is intermindled with private housing (always has been so no real problems).

It's not rough here, most residents work, we all look after the outside as well as the inside of our properties, help out our elderly neighbours and there are certainly no cars on bricks, violence, police visits etc.

I am another who would struggle in an urban setting.