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Our left wing BBC [with evidence]

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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    A._Badger wrote: »
    As I said a while ago - you mean like the Guardian, Observer Independent, Mirror, and the FT?

    The 'Tory dominated press' is a myth. Even The Sun backed that loathsome charlatan Blair.

    Nice choice of word, yes they still backed a Tory in disguise.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    julieq wrote: »
    I think hyperbole is what is possessing the BBC, not left wing politics. Just saw a headline on the bbc news site "Cadbury's closure devastates town" (no it didn't, a nuclear attack devastates a town, a factory closure creates a bit of unemployment). Or "Battles in Tunis" (= small scale factional skirmishes). Or about Susannah York "She was a legend" (or alternatively a minor English film star mainly notable for roles in the 1960s and 1970s). Honestly, you can go right through all their output and find lazy journalism, cliches that would make even Chris Morris squirm (just watch a report from a disaster area or political hotspot for the most ludicrous examples of the Day Today style of cliche), verbatim reporting of pressure group spin as fact, and nonsensical statistics.

    This is exactly what I`ve pointed out about the BBC News coverage of property prices. During the boom, we got our monthly dose of Fionulala from Nationwide, informing the nation how much wealthier it was over the the last month. Nationwide's (and Halifax's) avergage property prices were given high priority when it came to the news headlines. I now notice that the less than positive property price reports are not given such attention. I have been informed by a few forum members that this will have no bearing on house prices, or people's attitude to the property market. Apparently the public is more clued up than I imagine, and take no notice of what the media say about the property market. I happen the think that the media does have an effect on peoples thoughts. You tell everyone their property is going up in value, they'll believe it. IF you tell them their property is worth less, they probably will believe it.

    Take the coverage of the post-christmas sales. I mentioned a few weeks back about how the BBC were talking up the sales. They even told us how much money was being spent in London's West End. It all sounded like the shops were doing a roaring trade. Now several retailers have reported very average, or reduced sales over the christmas period. I'm not saying that the BBC should talk things down, but simply tell the truth. Yes, the West End may have been busy, but most of us don't shop there, so why tell us ?
    30 Year Challenge : To be 30 years older. Equity : Don't know, don't care much. Savings : That's asking for ridicule.
  • A._Badger
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    FTBFun wrote: »
    Actually it is. Its called "advertising".

    Rubbish. No one forces you to buy an advertised product. You are forced to buy a TV Licence though - even if you never watch the BBC.
  • datostar
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    julieq wrote: »
    I think hyperbole is what is possessing the BBC, not left wing politics. Just saw a headline on the bbc news site "Cadbury's closure devastates town" (no it didn't, a nuclear attack devastates a town, a factory closure creates a bit of unemployment). Or "Battles in Tunis" (= small scale factional skirmishes). Or about Susannah York "She was a legend" (or alternatively a minor English film star mainly notable for roles in the 1960s and 1970s). Honestly, you can go right through all their output and find lazy journalism, cliches that would make even Chris Morris squirm (just watch a report from a disaster area or political hotspot for the most ludicrous examples of the Day Today style of cliche), verbatim reporting of pressure group spin as fact, and nonsensical statistics.

    I do remember a great handwringing in the BBC about ratings loss for news output, and the idea of "news you can use" to make it "relevant". In the process they've dumbed down completely, and they're more likely to use vox pop as a central part of any political story. Unfortunately that's not a great way of getting informed analysis. Because without a good news service, no-one has been informed yet.

    They are quite an amusing bunch, really. We have the special 'Feargal Keane' voice usually used for starving Africans but used yesterday for a party of holidaymakers returning to Manchester from Tunisia (presumably in conditions of great suffering). Then there's temporal inflation by which they seem to be currently affected. Everything is now measured in 'decades' rather than years. I heard 'half a decade' the other day used for 'five years'. I'm eagerly awaiting 'tenth of a decade'. Don't overlook the imitatory skills of presenters either. There's a fellow called Mark Lawson on 'Front Row' on Radio Four who has a very loud raucous piercing voice like the cawwing of an irritated crow. I have to turn the volume down when he's on then I can't hear the other people on the programme. He's spawned at least one imitator now.
  • PhylPho
    PhylPho Posts: 1,443 Forumite
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    julieq wrote: »
    I think hyperbole is what is possessing the BBC, not left wing politics. ..

    Honestly, you can go right through all their output and find lazy journalism, cliches that would make even Chris Morris squirm. . .

    In the process they've dumbed down completely.

    If you're not doing anything at the moment, how about taking on the role of BBC TV Head of News? (Or whatever title it happens to be?) As a summary of all that's wrong with its news operation -- dumbed-down, lazy, amateurish -- your analysis alone has just saved the Corporation at least £25,000 in bringing in "a consultant" to assess its competence.

    * Not sure what the going rate is for a BBC Head of News nowadays, but the overall package must be around the minimum wage plus 10,000%.:) And oh, that pension fund. . .
  • lucylucky
    lucylucky Posts: 4,908 Forumite
    A._Badger wrote: »
    Rubbish. No one forces you to buy an advertised product. You are forced to buy a TV Licence though - even if you never watch the BBC.

    No one forces anyone to buy a TV licence.

    My word that is worthy of the sloppy journalism highlighted before.:D
  • A._Badger
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    lucylucky wrote: »
    No one forces anyone to buy a TV licence.

    My word that is worthy of the sloppy journalism highlighted before.:D

    And yours is worthy of the Alistair Campbell Memorial Prize for Dissembling Forked Tonguery.

    If you wish to watch any television in the UK then you are, indeed, forced to pay the BBC tax. And you damned well know it.
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    A._Badger wrote: »
    Rubbish. No one forces you to buy an advertised product. You are forced to buy a TV Licence though - even if you never watch the BBC.

    Oh of course - but what isn't advertised nowadays?

    I suspect that all those extra pence added on to the price of shopping adds up to the same as a TV licence in the end anyway. Obviously I can't prove that :p but its my opinion thats the case.
  • PhylPho
    PhylPho Posts: 1,443 Forumite
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    A._Badger wrote: »
    And yours is worthy of the Alistair Campbell Memorial Prize for Dissembling Forked Tonguery.

    Wonderful, quite wonderful. :beer:
  • lucylucky
    lucylucky Posts: 4,908 Forumite
    A._Badger wrote: »
    And yours is worthy of the Alistair Campbell Memorial Prize for Dissembling Forked Tonguery.

    If you wish to watch any television in the UK then you are, indeed, forced to pay the BBC tax. And you damned well know it.

    Oh my word - wrong again.

    It is perfectly possible to legally watch TV programes without the need for a licence.

    "forced to buy a TV licence" - how absurd:D
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