£1.40 a litre

RenovationMan

Puddleglum wrote: »

How about sharing a car with someone else going your way?

Or hitch-hiking?

Puddleglum

RenovationMan wrote: »

Or hitch-hiking?

Do you have to pay if you share?:D

Graham_Devon

RenovationMan wrote: »

Or hitch-hiking?

Come on

You'd never get to work at a specific time.

moggylover

RenovationMan wrote: »

So what your saying is that people should continue to live distant to where they work and the rest of us should pay taxes to subsidise their commute into work, perhaps buying them new cars so that the commute doesnt pollute the country too much?

I cant see your plan working, especially as the tax burden is already high without us having to subsidise other people's petrol. Your plan just isnt workable.

I don't think anyone has said that at all. But I think that if you actually read what people ARE saying instead of having a conversation with yourself you might realise that your own plan (whilst a sound IDEA in principle) has many problems that it has failed to address and which make it equally unworkable.

moggylover

RenovationMan wrote: »

Now you know how I feel, I havent said anything of the sort that you and the other person has attributed to me.

I simply stated that as fuel prices go up, more people will move closer to work.

I havent said anything about the impact on house prices or the impact on local economies. I havent said anything about moving jobs from cities to villages from the South East to the NW/NE/Scotland/Wales I simply said that more people will move closer to where they work.

Do you disagree with the statement: "That as fuel prices go up, more people will move closer to work"?

Just to really really qualify that statement, it does not say this should be a government initiative, it should not be some sort of forced march from villages to the cities. It simply means that individuals will look at their own finances and make calculated decisions based on the cost in time and money of their commute and as individuals they will decide whether it makes sense to stay put and pay increasing fuel costs or decide to relocate closer to where they work.

My statement is that as fuel prices increase, more individuals will make this calculation and more of them will decide that, for them, as individuals, who are uncompelled by me you or a government, will move closer to where they work.

Phew, its like writing a legal document posting on here. :rotfl:

I would say that in the first instance some may be able to. For the rest, many may wish it were possible but it will not be for the clear reasons you have already been given.

Graham_Devon

RenovationMan wrote: »

Where did I say that everyone/anyone should move to the South East? I am suggesting that people will start to move closer to where they actually work right now.

So if someone has a job in, say, Peterborough, they will move to Peterborough rather than live in Huntingdon and commute each day to Peterborough. If someone works in Hillington Industrian Estate, they live in Paisley rather than in Hogganfield and commute. Etc. Etc.

Reno, have you ever lived in a more rural area?

It's just I'm re-reading this thread, and your ideas are simplistic, as in, move closer. It's obvious really.

I'm wondering if you have ever lived more rurally, and have had experence with just "moving closer" as if it's something were all missing, and haven't yet had a lightbulb moment.

My personal feeling, is that given a reasonable choice, and cost effective situation, most would choose to live closer to work. But in reality, those opportunities are rare.

Many of us who went to school in the area I still work in, have had to move further from work, not closer, as the areas with work are those with incoming money. Incoming money, in my more rural area involves tourism and rich people in second homes retiring away from the city.

I can't compete with these people, no matter how nice the ideaology is. Therefore, I have to move further out. Further out, is where the rest of the people like myself live. All getting in our cars, commuting to the places that employ....the places where the wealthier live and holiday.

I said your idea was simplisitc, not as a reflection on you, but because it's a very nice idea, just not workable.I also notice you suggets people sell their homes, and move to something, anything they can afford, to be able to work. I'm afraid at that point, you really are living to work, and it's a situation I hope never to find myself in. Having some quality of life is important. I think you know this, hence your username

vaporate

Graham_Devon wrote: »

By April fuel economists are saying.

Well, £1.40 for diesel, £1.36 for Petrol, average price across the UK.

That's getting slightly worrying. Especially for those living in more rural areas.

Will the UK be able to cope with these high prices? It has a knock on effect to pretty much everything.

Couldn't quite believe it when it cost me £74 to fill up the car a couple of days ago. At £1.40 a litre, I'd be over £80. For a standard diesel car.

Higher rents, higher food prices, higher transport costs, higher electric / gas costs, all well exceeding inflation.

Somethings gonna give? I'm just wondering what, when, and how bad it will be.

Tories.

Keep all but born into money rich.

Still want that car?

Graham_Devon

vaporate wrote: »

Tories.

Keep all but born into money rich.

Still want that car?

Funny you should say that.

Hasn't hit the record prices that were achieved at a time under a LABOUR government

vaporate

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Funny you should say that.

Hasn't hit the record prices that were achieved at a time under a LABOUR government

Not YET... :T

EMA gone, tuition fees tripled, 'reforming' the NHS...

All too suspect for me under a Tory government.

RenovationMan

moggylover wrote: »

I don't think anyone has said that at all. But I think that if you actually read what people ARE saying instead of having a conversation with yourself you might realise that your own plan (whilst a sound IDEA in principle) has many problems that it has failed to address and which make it equally unworkable.

What plan?

I should practice what I preach if I were and and actually read what I wrote. I put it into bold often enough. There is no plan to move people or jobs anywhere there is simply the theory that people will naturally move towards living closer to work if they want to continue to work at that company yet their commute is prohibitively expensive.

TBH, this is so simple that I think yopur on a wind up. Thats fine its all 'pantomime' on here anyway, but its boring me now.