HD Television screen sizes.

tifo

Kurtis_Blue wrote: »

obviously you need a HD box, which you can/will get without paying £10 pm.

No you can't. You have to either pay for the box or/and get an extra £10 HD subscription. I'm talking about Sky. I don't use Virgin cos of their pricing (which is difficult to understand). I don't think even Virgin will give you a FREE HD box unless you subscribe for a package and then they've priced in the HD channels anyway.

There is NO WAY of getting HD channels (if you haven't had them before or don't have a HD box) without paying a subscription of some sort, whatever the amount. If there is let me know.

Inactive

liam8282 wrote: »

Can't see anywhere on the link saying that it was sky sponsored?



Yes but you sit double the distance away from you TV and from your other posts, your day to day viewing is watching SD programmes on your tv's built in freeview.

It is your opinion that there is no significant difference between HD and SD, but as your useage of HD seems pretty limited, you are not really basing your opinion on much.

Personally, watching documentaries (I would recommend Shark Men), watching films, watching sport and playing games in HD, it is remarkable the difference in picture quality rather than SD.

I also see the difference in basic programmes, even for example watching the Simpsons in HD, a cartoon, and you can still see the difference between HD & SD.

If you don't use your HD system for any of those, and for example all you watch is the news, you are not really going to get the full benefits of HD. You will see the wrinkles of your favorite news presenter much more clearly, but apart from that there isn't much that can be different between HD & SD.

If you cannot see the huge Sky Advert that offers M&S Vouchers etc. it is you that needs Specsavers, not me.

I only use the inbuilt Freeview because there is so little difference in SD / HD, it is just more convenient to use to watch essentially the same programmes.

It seems to me that you are just trying to justify the cost of HD to yourself instead of being honest.

liam8282

Inactive wrote: »

If you cannot see the huge Sky Advert that offers M&S Vouchers etc. it is you that needs Specsavers, not me.

Yes, that is an advert for Sky but is the website http://www.hdtvlounge.net/ sponsored by Sky? No!

Here is the actual Sky HD link http://hd.sky.com/

This from the BBC also has some good points http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2010/04/how-to-get-the-best-out-of-hd.shtml?postid=94937093


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Inactive wrote: »

I only use the inbuilt Freeview because there is so little difference in SD / HD, it is just more convenient to use to watch essentially the same programmes.

As I already said if you only watch a limited variety of programmes then you are not going to get the full benefits of HD.

But at the same time you are limiting your opinion, when advising others on what you think about the difference between HD & SD.

Inactive wrote: »

It seems to me that you are just trying to justify the cost of HD to yourself instead of being honest.

What cost?

I already said I get the HD channels as part of my Virgin package, costs no more or less than if I was to watch the same stuff in SD.

Inactive

liam8282 wrote: »

Yes, that is an advert for Sky but is the website http://www.hdtvlounge.net/ sponsored by Sky? No!

Here is the actual Sky HD link http://hd.sky.com/

This from the BBC also has some good points http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2010/04/how-to-get-the-best-out-of-hd.shtml?postid=94937093


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As I already said if you only watch a limited variety of programmes then you are not going to get the full benefits of HD.

But at the same time you are limiting your opinion, when advising others on what you think about the difference between HD & SD.



What cost?

I already said I get the HD channels as part of my Virgin package, costs no more or less than if I was to watch the same stuff in SD.

So Sky don't pay for that advert then?

I didn't know that I could only watch certain HD programmes in order to benefit from HD.

It seems to me that you would watch a Test Card if it was in HD.

cgk1

Inactive wrote: »

So Sky don't pay for that advert then?

Yes and no. The site has an ad banner that is supplied by a third party. The company that actually runs the ad-banner has programs that reads the text of the site (it's actually more complex than this, this is the cliff notes version) and then serves up adverts that it thinks are suitable for the audience. Sky themselves will have no idea that site exists or any contact or more importantly editorial control, they will simply have contracted for their product to be advertised on X number of sites.

Inactive

cgk1 wrote: »

Yes and no. The site has an ad banner that is supplied by a third party. The company that actually runs the ad-banner has programs that reads the text of the site (it's actually more complex than this, this is the cliff notes version) and then serves up adverts that it thinks are suitable for the audience. Sky themselves will have no idea that site exists or any contact or more importantly editorial control, they will simply have contracted for their product to be advertised on X number of sites.

So that's a Yes then?

Sky does pay for it, albeit in a convoluted way.

almillar

OK, yes, Sky are a bunch of shysters, I think we've established that.
Inactive - did I miss proper, HD snooker? I was watching it on BBC2, and thought about HD at the time, and thought, even as a snooker fan, 'nah, that would be a bit of a waste for snooker'. So did you watch it on BBC HD or BBC One HD? BBC One HD is just a simulcast of BBC One, HD stuff is HD, and SD stuff simply arrives on your screen broadcast at a higher quality (like the last couple of F1 races of 2010). If it was that channel, you weren't watching proper HD I reckon.
However, if it was BBC HD, which is obliged to show only HD programmes (and even within them, a certain limit of SD stuff) then it sounds like it was proper HD, and I stand corrected and kicking myself for missing it!
We've also established now that you sit too far away from your TV and need a bigger one ;-)

liam8282

almillar wrote: »

OK, yes, Sky are a bunch of shysters, I think we've established that.
Inactive - did I miss proper, HD snooker? I was watching it on BBC2, and thought about HD at the time, and thought, even as a snooker fan, 'nah, that would be a bit of a waste for snooker'. So did you watch it on BBC HD or BBC One HD? BBC One HD is just a simulcast of BBC One, HD stuff is HD, and SD stuff simply arrives on your screen broadcast at a higher quality (like the last couple of F1 races of 2010). If it was that channel, you weren't watching proper HD I reckon.
However, if it was BBC HD, which is obliged to show only HD programmes (and even within them, a certain limit of SD stuff) then it sounds like it was proper HD, and I stand corrected and kicking myself for missing it!
We've also established now that you sit too far away from your TV and need a bigger one ;-)

It was BBC HD, I watched a bit of it too.

liam8282

Inactive wrote: »

So Sky don't pay for that advert then?

Sky pay for the advert, not the content of the website.

Not hard to distinguish between the two, then again, about as hard as noticing the difference between HD & SD.

Here is a wikipedia link too, nothing to do with any HD provider:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HD_vs_SD_resolutions.png

Inactive wrote: »

I didn't know that I could only watch certain HD programmes in order to benefit from HD.

As far as I can make out, you don't play games, don't watch blu ray, don't watch sports, don't have your setup right, so your opinion of HD vs SD is pretty flawed to say the least.

Kurtis_Blue

tifo wrote: »

No you can't. You have to either pay for the box or/and get an extra £10 HD subscription. I'm talking about Sky. I don't use Virgin cos of their pricing (which is difficult to understand). I don't think even Virgin will give you a FREE HD box unless you subscribe for a package and then they've priced in the HD channels anyway.

There is NO WAY of getting HD channels (if you haven't had them before or don't have a HD box) without paying a subscription of some sort, whatever the amount. If there is let me know.

Youve allready stated above that,

"You have to either pay for the box or/and get an extra £10 HD subscription."

What is unclear exactly? at NO point do you need to pay £10 sub for the free HD channels. Crikey.