multifuel stove

A._Badger

anglo-nubian wrote: »

Hi,

I've just installed my new Stanley 'Tara' stove and I have to say I'm pretty happy with the finish of the castings and the controlability of the stove ( it shuts off completely or runs like a forge fire, as required)
BUT the room is still freezing

Room heat calculations suggest a 6Kw requirement ; it's an 8Kw stove . I've been running it pretty hard all day today but yet the room temp is only just 14 degrees !!

My only guess is that, as alluded to in the last post, the inglenook alcove is trapping the heat..... Can this be so ? Surely convection currents will carry hot air out at the top of the alcove whilst drawing cold in at the bottom ??

Has anyone else had a similar problem ? I'm panicking a little here....


Thanks,

Glenn

Despite assurances from an 'expert' that it doesn't happen, my experience suggests it certainly does!

I have a large inglenook and it heats up a long while before my room does. Moreover, hot air seems to get trapped within the space.

This problem came up on this forum some while ago and there was a discussion about 'Eco Fans'.

This link may help

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/1223593

If you search, you'll also probably find discussions about cheaper means of getting a suitable fan.

Hope that's some help.

savemoney

We have had a Franco Belge Savoy wood burner for just over 3 years it heats the dining room with very small extension and small kitchen and rating is 8kw



We get around 23-24c in the room at far end where we have a kitchen clock with temperature

I do find its sometimes too warm it does take time for heat to build up. I been thinking of getting a fan like this

http://www.gyroscopes.co.uk/d.asp?product=THERMALENGINE

£140 is a bit much but it would be nice for the heat to go into living room as we have dpouble doors to living room from the dining room and also the hallway

Anyone got one and are they any good.

I find to get a good blast of heat to use pallet wood but dont overload it as it sounds like a furnace in there if I put too much wood in

anglo-nubian

I never doubted that the heat circulation would be restricted to some degree, but what I've got now is a total failure - the room isn't warm enough to sit in, and that's with outdoor temperatures some 20 degrees higher than they were a week ago (-18 !!)

I think I'll have to pull the stove out into the room by extending the hearth with a couple of concrete blocks, and rig up a temporary flue to see if that helps. - if not, I'll have to conclude that the stove is scrap metal although, if you think about it, it's just a fire-in-a-box - how hopeless can it be ??

I'll let you know how I get on.

Cheers,

Glenn.

savemoney

Did you get it fitted proper by a HETAS fitter. Did they also fit a air brick as air flow is the key to get a good burn. Also the fuel is also key coal gives off much more heat but seasoned woods is better than non seasoned wood

I had my chimney lined too with stainless steel lining cost me arm and a leg for installation though

A._Badger

anglo-nubian wrote: »

I never doubted that the heat circulation would be restricted to some degree, but what I've got now is a total failure - the room isn't warm enough to sit in, and that's with outdoor temperatures some 20 degrees higher than they were a week ago (-18 !!)

I think I'll have to pull the stove out into the room by extending the hearth with a couple of concrete blocks, and rig up a temporary flue to see if that helps. - if not, I'll have to conclude that the stove is scrap metal although, if you think about it, it's just a fire-in-a-box - how hopeless can it be ??

I'll let you know how I get on.

Cheers,

Glenn.

Please do let us know.

Shifting the stove may help. I once had a Little Wenlock in a small inglenook and suffered a similar problem - it just didn't heat the room sufficiently, which was a surprise because all the suppliers I'd spoken with had told me 'it'll run you out of there'.

In an attempt to get more heat out of it, I had my installer come back and move it a foot or so forward and that did help - though it didn't entirely solve the problem.

I took one lesson away from that exercise - don't rely on retailers' guesstimates of how much power you need. Rooms can vary remarkably, it seems.

Good luck with it.

Lotus-eater

What wood are you burning, in my experience low heat output is usually down to either unseasoned wood, or low calorific output wood, which has to be burnt hard to get heat from it and as someone else said, then draws in more cold air.

anglo-nubian

Ok Guys,

I've just welded up a temporary flue from a bit of 6" stainless I had lying around.
Once I've finished my cuppa I'm going to move the stove forward about 600mm, completely clear of the alcove, then light-up and see what happens. I'll let you know later on. Fuel by the way is Burnglo and is good enough to make my Dad's living room more like a sauna with his old Hunter Midi 14. My chimney is a new, clay-lined one and draws very well - in fact the fire in the stove couldn't be faulted - it burns as fast or as slow as you wish, and always a nice clean, bright burn, so here goes......

Glen.

anglo-nubian

No Joy

I've had it running now for about 3 and a half hours and it's managed to raise the air temp from 11c to 14c. I've now given up watching it and come into the kitchen to get warmed.....
I could understand that if I'd under-sized it, the room wouldn't get quite warm enough, but this is miles out. It's an 8Kw stove but I'm pretty sure that a 3Kw electric heater would have made much more of an impression after 3 hrs. Bear in mind that this is a modern house, double glazed, well insulated (twin cavity walls, no less). The room is about 100 cubic metres which @14m/Kw is just over 7Kw. I'd say though it's a fairly safe bet that the 14m/Kw rule of thumb allows for older, less well insulated buildings, so I should be in the clear. Do my sums add up or am I missing something ??
By the way, does anyone here have any experience of a Stanley stove ?

Rant over for now,

Glenn.

Swipe

100 cubic metres is a massive room though.

brickie58

does anyone know if their is a building reg re length of stove pipe coming off top of stove all i can find on the net is a reccomended length as i need to know where i have to cut a hole in the breast as my fitter has got the flue and dont know anybody else to ask