How do I cancel my DLA claim.

petrolhead.

Brassedoff wrote: »

What pressure do you get once you have been awarded DLA? Personally I have had none. I suppose the only pressure someone might get is if the exaggerated their claim and get stressed remembering what they said they could not do, but end up doing it!

As other posters have said, these changes will only come in once the next election is done and the Con-libs will be out and Labour will scrap any proposals to buy votes.

Also, posters have advised giving their keys back. I did not think you could do that. A three year lease is a three year lease. If you can, I will chuck mine in and get a higher spec car.

Pressure, as in my post, refers to the threat hanging over you all of the time that you can be recalled at any time for another assessment. Fail that or receive a reduced award means an appeal that none of us wants to happen or attend. Pressure meaning the ever changing rules and regulations that may or may not affect us. I have said nothing about exagerated claims. I am talking about people that would prefer to live their lives without the threat of the state wanting to 'look into' their lives as and when. And then deciding to change the goalposts every so often.

Why do you think the benefit take up amongst the genuinly ill & disabled especially in the upper age group (50+) and including Pension Credit is lower than the those in the younger age groups?

Basically because of what I and others on this thread have been saying. We tend not to want to get involved due to the amount of aggravation that these benefits cause us.

I would sooner be poorer and less mobile than jump every time I am told to jump by the Governemnt. Why should we be made to feel that we are being offered something extra but with strings attached.

And please don't quote politics to me, I have no interest in it and never have had.
But what I would suggest you do, is place a sizeable bet on your forecast as you seem to have inside information.

petrolhead.

sh1305 wrote: »

huh? In another thread, you said you're on ESA "Because the alternative is to claim JSA and go through all of that rubbish. ESA pays the same amount. I am looking for a job, as I know the Jobcentre will never have my career advertised. Specialist agencies is where I am at. I have had one offer to have a chat with a firm in the new year but the travelling distance is not possible due to my medical condition. But given that appeals are taking upwards of 12 months to hear, I have that time to find employment."

In other words, you're trying to scam the system!:mad:

How do you work that one out?

Yes I failed the 2nd ESA assessment having passed a Tribunal 3 months earlier. The options open to me are appeal the decision and carry on claiming ESA at the assessment rate or (as the DWP have advised me to do) sign on and claim JSA instead.
The option I took was to appeal and claim ESA, otherwise I would have had to sign on every week and everything else that goes with it.
In the meantime - as I have said on another thread, I am looking to find work as I can't see me winning the next Tribunal, not with the way they are trying to cut down the figures, and besides which I am fed up with having assessments straight after Tribunal wins. I haven't got the strength to keep on fighting the government anymore.
My feeling is that they are trying to tire me out to give up.

Another reason for not claiming JSA instead of ESA is that there is no point as my expertise is never advertised in the jobcentre.
So in the knowledge that either I will lose the next Tribunal in about 12 months time or give up altogether claiming because of the stress, I have to find a replacement income from somewhere.
I hope to find something in that time frame.

And no, I am not playing the system, if you really knew what is wrong with me and how it affects my life you would apologise for thinking that I am 'on the fiddle'. Finding a job that I can do is totally different than finding a job.

Why should I claim JSA when I can claim ESA - assessment rate and try and get myself out of this rut of benefit culture?
I don't even know if I could work, but by God I will try - anything is better than having to put up with what the Government is dishing out. I can never know for certainty if I will get my money every week. If I worked for it I know I could. It's the difference in who's in control of my life - the state or me!

Brassedoff

petrolhead. wrote: »

Pressure, as in my post, refers to the threat hanging over you all of the time that you can be recalled at any time for another assessment. Fail that or receive a reduced award means an appeal that none of us wants to happen or attend. Pressure meaning the ever changing rules and regulations that may or may not affect us. I have said nothing about exagerated claims. I am talking about people that would prefer to live their lives without the threat of the state wanting to 'look into' their lives as and when. And then deciding to change the goalposts every so often.

Why do you think the benefit take up amongst the genuinly ill & disabled especially in the upper age group (50+) and including Pension Credit is lower than the those in the younger age groups?

Basically because of what I and others on this thread have been saying. We tend not to want to get involved due to the amount of aggravation that these benefits cause us.

I would sooner be poorer and less mobile than jump every time I am told to jump by the Governemnt. Why should we be made to feel that we are being offered something extra but with strings attached.

And please don't quote politics to me, I have no interest in it and never have had.
But what I would suggest you do, is place a sizeable bet on your forecast as you seem to have inside information.

Ok, I see where you are coming from, but did the system of change not always exist? If you get DLA now, the chances of losing it when the changes come in are small. At present any recipient is better off and gets a percentage of something. Giving the benefit up mean getting 100% of nothing. Look at the appeals for ESA, that benefit is simpler to get and they are snowed under. DLA/PIP will be the straw that breaks the camels back. When your assessment/re-assessment comes, apply, nothing ventured, nothing gained!

Oldernotwiser

petrolhead. wrote: »

How do you work that one out?

Yes I failed the 2nd ESA assessment having passed a Tribunal 3 months earlier. The options open to me are appeal the decision and carry on claiming ESA at the assessment rate or (as the DWP have advised me to do) sign on and claim JSA instead.
The option I took was to appeal and claim ESA, otherwise I would have had to sign on every week and everything else that goes with it.
In the meantime - as I have said on another thread, I am looking to find work as I can't see me winning the next Tribunal, not with the way they are trying to cut down the figures, and besides which I am fed up with having assessments straight after Tribunal wins. I haven't got the strength to keep on fighting the government anymore.
My feeling is that they are trying to tire me out to give up.

Another reason for not claiming JSA instead of ESA is that there is no point as my expertise is never advertised in the jobcentre.
So in the knowledge that either I will lose the next Tribunal in about 12 months time or give up altogether claiming because of the stress, I have to find a replacement income from somewhere.
I hope to find something in that time frame.

And no, I am not playing the system, if you really knew what is wrong with me and how it affects my life you would apologise for thinking that I am 'on the fiddle'. Finding a job that I can do is totally different than finding a job.

Why should I claim JSA when I can claim ESA - assessment rate and try and get myself out of this rut of benefit culture?
I don't even know if I could work, but by God I will try - anything is better than having to put up with what the Government is dishing out. I can never know for certainty if I will get my money every week. If I worked for it I know I could. It's the difference in who's in control of my life - the state or me!

If you're capable of working, you should be claiming JSA and not ESA. Alternatively you could claim Pension Credit.

Interestingly we had another member who chose not to claim PC and alternated between JSA and ESA; perhaps you may know him?

sweetersong

Petrolhead-Can you not understand the hypocrisy though of saying that there are some jobs you can do, even though you claim ESA, and then accusing others of being "fitter than they make out" for summoning some energy to fight an incorrect benefits decision

petrolhead.

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

If you're capable of working, you should be claiming JSA and not ESA. Alternatively you could claim Pension Credit.

Interestingly we had another member who chose not to claim PC and alternated between JSA and ESA; perhaps you may know him?

Not really. I think I am right in saying this. But when I failed my latest assessment I was given two options. I could claim JSA and await the outcome of my appeal or just stay on ESA and await for the outcome of my appeal.
I have done nothing wrong - well I don't think so. All of this information was in a letter from the DWP.

I continue to send in my sick notes, which makes me eligible for ESA. Of the two benefits, ESA whilst waiting for my appeal to be heard is the easiest to cope with (not having to sign on every week). I don't particularly wish to work, my health is such that it may not be possible. But I have to have a means of paying my bills and living costs if I fail at the Tribunal, or more likely give it up before I get to that point.

Yes I could claim Pension Credit and stop my ESA. But what you do not seem to understand is that you are pushing me in a direction towards being dependent on benefits when all I would like to do is be independent.

I don't know how you all manage to cope with the uncertainty that being on benefits brings you, but it is not for me.

I can't just sit here and wait for the inevitable and then find that I am up the creek without a paddle.

If I find that I can't work - and I will give it a go - then it will have to be ESA again. I hate being on these benefits, you can't plan for anything.

And besides which, the £65 that I get doesn't go anywhere near enough to cover my weekly outgoings. I have to keep using my savings to live off. They wont last forever.

I do get Council Tax Benefit as well.
I have never (well not since the 1970's) claimed Unemployment Benefit. The system was bad then, and from what I hear it is even worse now!

I know quite a lot of people, but nobody on here. Why do you ask?

sweetersong

And I am still waiting for an answer......

Petrolhead-I am not saying you are doing anything wrong, as I don't know your situation. If someone managed to find me a job that I could do despite by ME and wouldn't make my ME worse, I would do it, I get fed up of not being able to work, but try as I might, such a job doesn't exist for me, but there may be one for you, I hope there is.

I am just trying to understand why you say that anyone who can fight a benefits decision must be fitter than they make out? Because for some of us, getting a job would be a lot harder and make us a lot worse than fighting a decision

Indie_Kid

petrolhead. wrote: »

ESA whilst waiting for my appeal to be heard is the easiest to cope with (not having to sign on every week).

It's every 2 weeks actually. I don't understand how ESA is the easiest to cope with - to claim ESA, you need medicals. To claim JSA, you need to do a few hours of job hunting each week and then sign a piece of paper.

Yes I could claim Pension Credit and stop my ESA. But what you do not seem to understand is that you are pushing me in a direction towards being dependent on benefits when all I would like to do is be independent.

Huh?

[QUPTE]And besides which, the £65 that I get doesn't go anywhere near enough to cover my weekly outgoings.[/QUOTE]

PC for a single person is around double that per week.

sunnyone

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

If you're capable of working, you should be claiming JSA and not ESA. Alternatively you could claim Pension Credit.

Interestingly we had another member who chose not to claim PC and alternated between JSA and ESA; perhaps you may know him?

Ive had that same feeling for some time and the poster is confirming it post by post since I then, we will see soon because they just cant resist it!

petrolhead.

sweetersong wrote: »

Petrolhead-Can you not understand the hypocrisy though of saying that there are some jobs you can do, even though you claim ESA, and then accusing others of being "fitter than they make out" for summoning some energy to fight an incorrect benefits decision

No not really. It isn't hypocrisy at all. Of course I could carry out some type of work otherwise I would not be looking for it would I?
At the last Tribunal I was placed in the All Work Group.Which to me means that I can work, but not yet ready for full time work.

I'm not disabled, my brain still works as well as my hands! I am just ill and incapable of carrying out a normal week's work.

However when it comes to filling out forms, and getting ready for an appeal court hearing, that is out of my league. Talk to me about gas turbine engines, and I will probably lose you in the science of them. I get stressed easilly, I need to feel that certainty and purpose exist in my life.

If you would care to cast yourself back to my comments, you will see that it was directed at others who although they say they are too ill or disabled to work, yet manage to find the strength to cope and prepare for the appeal hearing.

I know how I felt waiting for the date to come round, trying to get the information together and then to be cross questioned on my abilities to work. It was terrible. I just couldn't cope with that again.
My attitude is that if I have to go through that again, I would sooner give up the benefit.
Likewise with DLA, I have been told that most claims fail in the first application - then I will have to go through the turmoil of another appeal hearing. You have to be joking - there is only so much that I can take.
Unfortunately I am the sort of person that unless things work out first time (where benefit claims are concerned) then I don't want to know. I am not on my own with those views, am I?
I am being honest about my abilities, I do wonder sometimes whether others are as honest.