BTL, vile lowlife business, nobody wants to be living under their roofs

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The_Fox wrote: »

I am not mincing about with my words anymore, again today i witnessed the lowest form of reptilian scum that is the modern day BTL landlord.
For too long i have been an apologist for that vile business, even though i argued that it was causing many of the social problems in this country today i would still attack it in "an ever so civilised way". Many of you will know what i am talking about, coming out with stuff like "you cannot blame them for making a buck" or " BTL is needed in some areas and for some people".

Most people who are living under a BTL roof are doing so because they have no choice, those people have created a speculative bubble which traps many. The only people buying today are those with money burning a hole in their pockets, and then those who want to buy can't as rents are being put up, catch 22.

I have met and seen many of these reptiles in many ways(living and media), none(NONE) have a decent bone in their body. Kirsty Allsopp, Grant Bovey, Rosie Millard, The Wilsons, van hoogstraten, endless MP's(big reason why it is nurtured), all those soulness cold lowlife on singing pig, you have a scrawny looking plumber who looks like he has never had a friend in his life bragging constantly and laughing at the less well off wannabe FTB's on PMT motley fool along with Kingofnowhere with his pants around his ankles and Kleenex in hand posting 24/7 why rents are going up.

I have met dozens of them, the types you would see on THE ONLY WAY IS ESSEX, slick, sneaky, won't pay their bills, ex bankrupts, only love is money, lying cheating, filth the lot of them, not once have a ever met one with a social conscience. I know this is strong stuff, and if i had seen any different with my own eyes i would say, there is no exception.

The BTL is killing aspiration, it is just creating temp homes, homes where in many cases you have few rights and can be kicked out with 2 months notice should those worms decide. Homes that the landlord will always refer to as HIS/HERS, he/she will never let the tenant feel like it is truly theirs.

Those that have all purchased their own homes(and good luck to them, REALLY), who live with BTL propertys have to put up with endless tenants, people who never really feel like part of the community.
The BTL landlord will say they work hard, RUBBISH!!!, they are after an easy life and easy money. They will say that they took the chance, ok i will take a chance and rob a Bank tomorrow.
Socially we don't need many of them, they will tell you that they are housing the thick and useless :rotfl:, arrogant prats.

If David Cameron really cares about peoples happiness like he claims and not the BTL landlords that flood Parliament then he will start making it economicaly difficult for the wealthy to keep the poorer workers in the pockets of spivs and those with more money then sense.

Seriously, i really hate them, i have kept it quite for so long, tried to fight my corner in a civil way with constructive argument. The fact is that not one of these reptiles have a decent bone in their body, it's about time people started to take them.

I watched today as a working single woman was brought to tears by one of these heartless worms who for the first month had money problems and was asking for help.
It's the nearest i have ever come to sticking a mans head through a wall, i walked off the job before i did.

We're not all cruel nasty people but don't let the facts get in the way of your bigotry.

If your working 'on site' it sounds like you are a tradesman and probably played your part in the 'speculative bubble'.

I've met many bad tenants and workmen but don't brand you all as reptiles, scum,lying, cheating, filth, thick, useless, arrogant prat, and heartless worms. GROW UP.

FTBFun

Percy1983 wrote: »

In short I think it has got out of control and it does need adressing, may be all rental properties should go back to the government, to which then rentals could be kept at prices less than mortgages and money raised would go back into the country rather then the pockets of a few greedy BTL landlords.

Do you trust the Government to do this without completely ballsing it up?

IveSeenTheLight

!!!!!!_face wrote: »

I've said it before, but the only landlords I know were previously drugdealers ...............

Is this reflective of your local and personnel experience.
I can accept that there may be a minute minority that could fall into that bracket, but it is far from the norm.

The_Fox_3

[quote=[Deleted User];41024770]We're not all cruel nasty people but don't let the facts get in the way of your bigotry.

If your working 'on site' it sounds like you are a tradesman and probably played your part in the 'speculative bubble'.

I've met many bad tenants and workmen but don't brand you all as reptiles, scum,lying, cheating, filth, thick, useless, arrogant prat, and heartless worms. GROW UP.[/QUOTE]


How many time do we have to hear this futile apologetic type of retort:rotfl:

Ok then, if you expect an argument on individual case as opposed to looking at the whole subject in a general we could say that for example Hitler was'nt that bad a guy. I once remember him patting a german shepard, he once also crabbed the cheeks of a cute little blue eyed blond girl. He painted in water colours, which obvioulsy showed a man of some depth, and above all he loved his mother.

So to be honest i am sick and tired of people Hitler bashing, ok he killed 6 million inocent jews, but look at the nice things he did.

Kenny4315

what a load of rubbish has been spouted in this thread.

Do you really think the landlord / tenant relationship is something that is just happened in the last 10 years. Since the establishment of civilisation there has always been a landlord / tenant relationship. Whether it has been a feudal lord giving service to the king, or the peasants to the fuedal lord and so on. Or whether the mill owner provided accomodation to his workers as part of their wage, say for example, Saltaire. Or just plain a rental agreement between the house owner and a tenant, a most common situation until recent times. After all home-ownership is a recent thing and not a historical one, go back 100 years and you'll find that the bulk of the population rented and buying was not even a consideration.

IveSeenTheLight

Kenny4315 wrote: »

what a load of rubbish has been spouted in this thread.

Do you really think the landlord / tenant relationship is something that is just happened in the last 10 years. Since the establishment of civilisation there has always been a landlord / tenant relationship. Whether it has been a feudal lord giving service to the king, or the peasants to the fuedal lord and so on. Or whether the mill owner provided accomodation to his workers as part of their wage, say for example, Saltaire. Or just plain a rental agreement between the house owner and a tenant, a most common situation until recent times. After all home-ownership is a recent thing and not a historical one, go back 100 years and you'll find that the bulk of the population rented and buying was not even a consideration.

Hear Hear :T

The_Fox_3

Kenny4315 wrote: »

what a load of rubbish has been spouted in this thread.

Do you really think the landlord / tenant relationship is something that is just happened in the last 10 years. Since the establishment of civilisation there has always been a landlord / tenant relationship. Whether it has been a feudal lord giving service to the king, or the peasants to the fuedal lord and so on. Or whether the mill owner provided accomodation to his workers as part of their wage, say for example, Saltaire. Or just plain a rental agreement between the house owner and a tenant, a most common situation until recent times. After all home-ownership is a recent thing and not a historical one, go back 100 years and you'll find that the bulk of the population rented and buying was not even a consideration.

So what are you saying?

You want to go backwards!!

I will say it again, i think some rental property in the UK is essential, what i don't want is it being owned by spivy gangsters, greedy immoral reptiles, or people who do not care at all about THEIR customers and go onto treat them like cattle. I have a problem with the type of landlords we have, and i have an even bigger problem with the rules an regulations. For a start we should have far more long term tenancy, say 5 years at least with the landlord being able to kick out the tennant should he want to sell.

Kenny4315

The_Fox wrote: »

So what are you saying?

You want to go backwards!!

I will say it again, i think some rental property in the UK is essential, what i don't want is it being owned by spivy gangsters, greedy immoral reptiles, or people who do not care at all about THEIR customers and go onto treat them like cattle. I have a problem with the type of landlords we have, and i have an even bigger problem with the rules an regulations. For a start we should have far more long term tenancy, say 5 years at least with the landlord being able to kick out the tennant should he want to sell.

I'm afraid your posts have being a pile of whinging moaning nonsense ..... simples .... :money:

IveSeenTheLight

The_Fox wrote: »

I will say it again, i think some rental property in the UK is essential,

There are less less rental property as a percentage of total property now than in previous decades.

The_Fox wrote: »

i have an even bigger problem with the rules an regulations.

For a start we should have far more long term tenancy, say 5 years at least with the landlord being able to kick out the tennant should he want to sell.

That regulation would not help tenants looking for long term security.

There are many landlords that may be willing to consider a 5 year tenancy. How many tenants want that though?

[Deleted User]

The_Fox wrote: »

How many time do we have to hear this futile apologetic type of retort:rotfl:

Ok then, if you expect an argument on individual case as opposed to looking at the whole subject in a general we could say that for example Hitler was'nt that bad a guy. I once remember him patting a german shepard, he once also crabbed the cheeks of a cute little blue eyed blond girl. He painted in water colours, which obvioulsy showed a man of some depth, and above all he loved his mother.

So to be honest i am sick and tired of people Hitler bashing, ok he killed 6 million inocent jews, but look at the nice things he did.

How many times have we heard the mentally challenged making crazy analogies (hitler!?!) because they're incapable of reasoned debate?

Your posts appear to be all bluster and little substance.