car accident & drink driving

no-oneknowsme

lucylucky wrote: »

Drinking and driving is not a crime.

Do keep up.

No....that may be so but i think you will find that drinking enough alcohol to fail a roadside breath test IS !!!!

Do keep up.

no-oneknowsme

lucylucky wrote: »

Since you haven't been proven guilty then technically it does

From your posts on both this thread and other threads i can tell you are nothing more than an argumentative biddy !

As the OP hasnt been heard off since the very start of this thread and since you yourself are getting so involved i wouldnt put it past you to be the author of this post under an AE !

You are now on ignore so go ahead and post your worthless argumentative sh it , i have the pleasure of not having to read it lol.:rotfl:

tuggy12

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

No....that may be so but i think you will find that drinking enough alcohol to fail a roadside breath test IS !!!!

Do keep up.

Failing a roadside breath test is in itself not a crime:

"If you fail to submit to a roadside breath test or the test shows a breath alcohol level above 35 mg/ml, the police take you back to the police station for additional testing. (NB. Additional testing is required because the police use hand-held breathalysers for roadside stops, which sometimes provide inaccurate results -- and since the results cannot be relied on, they are not admissible as evidence in court proceedings.)"

http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/criminal/drink_driving/500102.html

no-oneknowsme

tuggy12 wrote: »

Failing a roadside breath test is in itself not a crime:

"If you fail to submit to a roadside breath test or the test shows a breath alcohol level above 35 mg/ml, the police take you back to the police station for additional testing. (NB. Additional testing is required because the police use hand-held breathalysers for roadside stops, which sometimes provide inaccurate results -- and since the results cannot be relied on, they are not admissible as evidence in court proceedings.)"

http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/criminal/drink_driving/500102.html

Why ?? Who said it was ???

Think if you re-read my post again you will find i said that DRINKING ENOUGH ALCOHOL (AND THEN DRIVING) is a crime !

real1314

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

No....that may be so but i think you will find that drinking enough alcohol to fail a roadside breath test IS !!!!

Do keep up.

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

Why ?? Who said it was ???

Think if you re-read my post again you will find i said that DRINKING ENOUGH ALCOHOL (AND THEN DRIVING) is a crime !

You should try to keep up with your own posts. You clearly said failing a roadside test is a crime. Mind you, analogies to theft don't work. Drink driving is only a "crime" by degrees of measurement, rather than subjective argument.

Chorlie

lucylucky wrote: »

Since you can't quote any law I'll take that as a "no"

If you can't understand what I am saying go back and re-read the posts and have another go.

Well its seem my opinion differs from yours, I hate all drink driver, I think the limit should be zero and if you do drink and drive you should be banned for life (hard I know, but so is life in a wheelchair).

They are permitted a second test at the station, this only helps the Drink Driver to get off, due to the extra delay in taking the second test, the fact they may of being driving for hours before being stopped or could of drove home from the pub the night before when they were stopped the next morning, therefore they could of been way way over the limit if stopped earlier but this isn't even thought about.

I guess I look at the whole bigger picture of drink driving, where others only see it from the point of the second reading and if over the limit or not at that moment in time.

You don't seem to have an issue with people who drink and drive, I'm happy for you to have your opinion, its whats what makes this life good.

If you haven't guessed this topic touches a nerve with me, 3 of my biggest hates are Drink Driver, Rapists & Pedos.

Maybe others have different points of view on these then myself, so to stop me getting anymore wound up, I'm leaving this thread; I'm sorry if I've offended anyone, but I just hope you can understand why I have these feelings towards Drink Drivers even if you don't agree with them.

real1314

Chorlie wrote: »

Well its seem my opinion differs from yours, I hate all drink driver, I think the limit should be zero.

That option would of course reduce the number of drink related accidents, but so would y option of keeping kids off the streets, as would keeping all pedestrians off the streets.

Do you think people who have half a lager should be banned for life?

What about half a lager then wait an hour and then drive?


What do you think the driver that caused your disability had drunk?

mrbadexample

Chorlie wrote: »

The law states that your driving is effected if over the limit,

It states nothing of the sort.

vaio

Chorlie wrote: »

.......They are permitted a second test at the station, this only helps the Drink Driver to get off, due to the extra delay in taking the second test, the fact they may of being driving for hours before being stopped or could of drove home from the pub the night before when they were stopped the next morning, therefore they could of been way way over the limit if stopped earlier but this isn't even thought about.........

The second test at the station is not permitted, it's required because the roadside test is not accurate or reliable enough to convict someone of an offence which results in major life disruption possibly including loss of liberty.

Something you will agree with....once there is an accurate reading obtained the police can and do "count back" to give a reading at an earlier time

danlojo

Having to lift an dead 8 month old boy out of the car he was passenger in which was hit by a drink driver will haunt me forever.

Think about that every time you get in the driving seat of a car when you next have a drink.