Colleague issue

GEEGEE8

MissDelilah wrote: »

actually hon, I'm through with 1 year's legal executive training. am in my 2nd year so able to take on small cases after that.

Like I said, I've had this rubbish happen to me before so I know all too well how people can judge.

Suppose this guy got the sack and he was innocent?

I couldn't give two !!!!!! if your colleague is upset that I disagree with him.

Your attitude is astounding!

I'm at uni doing Quantity Surveying, but I don't go round telling people my opinion as I'm not fully qualified and don't have the experience.

Will you be dealing with employment law? Sexual harrasment cases? If so, then you need to start sorting yourself out, particularly your attitude.

RacyRed

Are we going to go through the whole "I'd react in this way so if you didn't you are in the wrong" scenario all over again?

Please tell me we have a little more understanding and compassion than that on MSE.

Nicki

MissDelilah wrote: »

I agree with all you've posted Nicki.

I'm afraid I can't in all honesty return the compliment.

GEEGEE8

Nicki wrote: »

I'm afraid I can't in all honesty return the compliment.

Ha ha ha :beer:

OP - I always think you should stand up for what is right. It might not always do you any favours in life, but you can have pride in yourself.

Flyboy152

MissDelilah wrote: »

but I take my colleague's advice on this. I'm sure if you're ever in trouble and need advice, who do you go to?!

In your case someone to help you with your spelling.

:rotfl:

I really hope your fellow solicitors don't look on you PC and find out how you give advice.

You really need to have a long hard think about the way you engage with others.

By the way, sentences normally begin with a capital letter and most certainly do not end with a question mark and an exclamation mark. You seem to be missing a couple of commas as well.

BARGAINHUNTER!

Ok - I have posted on this thread earlier on as I used to be a personnel officer and I stated how I would have dealt with this situation.

HR do not have any proof that he did expose himself to you - I have re read the emails since the incident and he has not admitted it, and it could be interpreted that he had simply forgotten to do his flys up. In this situation HR are backed into a corner. it is simply one word against the other and they have to tread very carefully. He has denied it, and despite the fact that HR may well suspect that he is not telling the truth, unfortunately there is little that they can do.

I will say one thing though - I sincerely hope that HR will not insist that you two work in the same department again. Doing so could open them up to a tribuneral being brought against them when your work suffers, you suffer from stress and feel the only way out is to leave. This really is an impossible situation, but HRs job now is to do a damage limitation exercise. Expecting you two to just forget about it and work side by side in the same department again is really not on. Have they said when he is coming back and if so if he will be working abck alongside you?

Am I right in thinking that the police have still to make their minds up about whether he is guilty or not? If so, then HR should really keep him suspended until the outcome of the polices enquiries.

One thing is sure though - his cards have been seriously marked and if one more person goes to HR and puts in a complaint against him about his inappropriate behaviour im sure he will be dealt with more seriously.

I hope for your sake and sanity he does not work alongside you again.

SandC

MissDelilah wrote: »

I actually feel that if his member was erect (was it, I can't remember now, so far back in thread) then even more reason for OP to go running and screaming to HR straight away. or to bring the matter straight away to the department and those around her.

I told my fellow solicitor exactly what happened and the followed up with the other emails at lunchtime actually today. He said (as another solicitor said here) "the guy is denying it in the emails so how do we even know he did expose himself?!"

This all seems fishy to me. The company don't seem as if they're taking it any further either. So OP's only other option is to go to police and bring a civil action.

It happened on 15th Dec, she reported it on 17th - at first she was in shock, then she confided in another staff member, then she emailed the guy and confronted him face to face. Due to feeling increasingly traumatised she then reported it, followed by the police a few days later.

Rape victims often go for quite some time wirthout reporting it, as do victims of those who expose themselves in a 'flashing' manner on the street. We've all had things happen and wish we'd reacted quicker or differently. I had a colleague years ago steal negatives from the holiday photos I'd passed around - which he then printed in his dark room and sent back to the office. He did this because he was leaving the company and knew there wouldn't be repurcussions. Do i wish I hadn't been that naive 20 year old and reported him regardless? Yes, I do.

Having said all that, we are pretty much in agreement that the evidence in written form doesn't state any admission by him, nor does Gwen highlight that he was aroused at the time. Again, this is all down to shock and just how do you deal with something like that? Yeah, you know when an old boss of mine threw his sandwich at me, leaving me picking bits of it off my clothing - just cos it had too much salad - I should've reported it, straight away. Yet I didn't.

Gwen should feel proud of herself for reporting this gross act. It may just have nipped his behaviour in the bud.

blue_monkey_2

Ah, and here we have what you really think. You sad individual, just like that rape victim who wore a dress that was too short.

Do you speak to all of your 'clients' in this manner - because if you do, you're in the wrong job!! You could, one day, be paid to defend someone like Gwen and prove she was in right. Or a murderer who has clearly killed but you have to prove he didn't. Somehow I really do not think you have it in you and you need to look for a career change.

I pity anyone who might come to you for help legally - now or in the future. Still, I guess it pays well.

Funny, people with your attitude make me sick too.

starrystarry

MissDelilah wrote: »

I was expressing my colleague's professional opinion and bringing my own two pence into it.

Frankly I think that's overvaluing your contribution.

GEEGEE8

MissDelilah wrote: »

And don't say most lawyers can be unscrupulous when it comes to work because they can be, fact of life. Doesn't mean we are all bad.

You aren't a lawyer or a solicitor, you're in training.. much like a circus monkey really..

You really are up your own !!!!.

You are female yes? If so, I really hope you don't have to go through any sexual harassment claims for yourself in the future, or worse.

I agree that you are in the wrong profession. You don't have the communucation skills required to be a competant solicitor. You cannot reason with people in a professional manner, and you can't empathise either. Let alone telling someone to 'F off' in one of your earlier posts.

You are the scum of the Earth with an attitude like yours and I really do hope you come unstuck somewhere along the line and realise how childish, immature and pathetic other people see you as being.

You should be embarrased about your 'opinion', as it's just vile.

Silly woman.