Colleague issue

wuckfit

MissDelilah wrote: »

I work for a solicitors and this is what they told me. LOL.

go F yourself too, MATE

You work for a Firm of Solicitors, yet you think it's appropriate to tell other posters to "go F yourself" ? Hardly a professional attitude, nor helpful either.

wuckfit

MissDelilah wrote: »

Don't you DARE tell me I am in the wrong job.

Isn't it about that time of day for you to lick all the stamps and envelopes for the Solicitors' outgoing mail and trotted off to the postbox?

starrystarry

MissDelilah wrote: »

I can empathise somewhat with what Gwen went through.

In #401 you said people like Gwen make you sick. I think you need to look up the meaning of the word empathise.

Also, above you said you got good results from reporting men that did this to you, yet in #401 you said you got the sack. Make your mind up.

GEEGEE8

I've quite happily indulged in a little email flirting in my time, I certainly wouldn't expect that to mean I should put up with someone flashing at me in the office.

She clearly told him after he got married that it wasn't appropriate to email her things like that. So, after her saying that he decides that flashing is more appropriate? and also, according to you, because she had a snog 2 years earlier, she was 'asking for it'.

Get real love!

You're a poor example of a so called professional. (In training though I might add).

I bet you go around telling people you are a solicitor too.. sad sad person.

Errata

yes, if he goes commando, has a lose/broken zip or forgets to button up or whatever his jeans/underwear on return from the toilet then it could well be a mistake.

*snorts*

I work for a solicitors

*snorts again*

Sorry it wasn't the outcome you hoped for Gwen.

zzzLazyDaisy

GEEGEE8 wrote: »

I bet you go around telling people you are a solicitor too.. sad sad person.

I hope not - it's a criminal offence to wrongly hold yourself out as a solicitor, and if the person concerned is a trainee solicitor, they can (should) also be disciplined by their firm and/or by the law society.

Uncertain

BARGAINHUNTER! wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that the police have still to make their minds up about whether he is guilty or not?

And when did that become their job!!!!!

If they have reasonable suspicion they can arrest him and investigate further. If they have enough evidence the can pass this to the CPS. The CPS will review this and if, and only if, they think there is a better than even chance of conviction AND it is in the public interest to do so they can have him charged.

Finally a court will decide if he is guilty or not.

Quite a way off it seems!

GEEGEE8

MissDelilah wrote: »

actually hon, I'm through with 1 year's legal executive training. QUOTE]

From what I can gather, you have the 2nd year of the ILEX course left, 2 year practical experience, a legal practice and professional skills course.

So you are actually over 3 years away from ever being a solicitor.

scooby088

I have shown interest in this thread for sometime now and it is a shame that nothing looks likely to get done about the bloke in question...and i must also say that some contributors have sunk really low with some of their comments.

RacyRed

MissDelilah wrote: »

Gwen

I'm going to briefly give you a run down of my experiences (yes sexual harassment in the workplace) and what I eventually did about it.

The first one happened about 15 years ago in my 2nd job, fresh out of secretarial college. My boss came in to the office fresh off a plane from Toronto, jetlagged (so he said) and then he proceeded to grope my bottom and breasts behind a filing cabinet with no witnesses. He also touched my arm inappropriately on another occasion. I mentioned this to a senior member of staff, said I wasn't happy etc but didn't complain. Then I had some time off sick. Next thing I knew I was in the office being fired. I was given some flippant comment "You accused someone of stealing" which wasn't the case at all. When my mother rang to ask what on earth was happening she was told "Nigel likes to fondle the girls!". I went to another colleague (these were high up medical consultants, 1 worked in a hospital and at our office, the other at our company) with my mother and a tape recorder (hidden) and was subsequently offered a job in the hospital as a secretary, and a compensation payout as well as a reference, holiday and notice pay etc. This was also after my mother's solicitor had written a letter complaining of my treatment, threatening legal action (it was at a time when sexual harassment cases were big newspaper stories).

The 2nd time was a few years later when working in a big architects office. I suddenly started getting internet IM's (instant messages) from an unknown man, but they were pervy. I asked them to stop but was curious as to who was sending them. Was it someone who liked me and who wanted to flirt or was it someone playing a joke? It turned out to be a younger, married man who got divorced a few years later. he was obviously bored. At first I went along with the IM's but after he wouldn't leave me alone (I met up with him on our way home) I did threaten to go to our loosely termed HR department. he soon stopped the IMs.

All I am saying is that men who do this often it is NOT their first attempt and that yes, maybe there can be more going on. This man who IM'd me actually told me on more than one occasion that he had c*me and had it on his trousers. IM's were handy for him as I don't know if these messages had any record (unlike emails). And yes, married or not, these men do this because it's extra fun, they often play on the fact that they won't be reported or found out, sometimes it is even a power trip for them.

The question I ask is would they do this to their own wife/daughter etc? I think not. And they would probably punch the man who was doing it to their wife/daughter.

Police etc - you've done the right thing. This is gross misconduct in my experience and not just suspendable but sackable. I do hope he is sacked.

Good on you and much support for the future.

MissDelilah, I fail to understand how you went from the above post to calling Gwen stupid and saying that people like her make you sick.

Originally Posted by MissDelilah
People like Gwen make me sick TBH.

Like I said I've been through this before. What did I get but the sack? Things have moved on in employment law now.

Like I said before Gwen got what was coming to her and there was more than met the eye.

if she wants to appeal or whatever to HR as someone said then fine, do that.

Astounding inconsistency.