Child would like unsuitable game for christmas HELP!

cheepskate_2

HeidiHi wrote: »

it was a bad idea to let your child play these games in online mode because p a e d o philes use the online mode to get an "in" into your child's life?

Facts are unfortunetly, that most children are abused by a member or friend of their own family. You just dont hear about it as it happens so many times for it to be worthy of any coverage..
Not saying not to be carefull with any online game, just the facts

kafkathecat

Courteener, The age restriction is there to stop shops selling to children. It is like the sale of alcohol, children cannot buy it but a parent can give it to a child over 5 in their own home. It gives parents discretion. The rule is for shops and guidance for parents.
I know a church minister's daughter who was married and pregnant at 17, please don't use generalised tabloid stereotypes.
'good parents are supposed to teach us to play by the rules'. If only it were that easy. Without wanting to invoke Godwin's Law we know where blindly following orders gets you.
HeidiHi my ds doesn't talk to strangers on the internet or anywhere else I don't know why he would want to.

Tulip09

I would not give my 8 year old son COD, at that age he was more into spyro! However his dad would have bought games like that and played them in the house. I have given my now 12 year old games that are 18's and a bit too violent but I do have rules in place and like to think that i know my own child. I do not allow games consoles or internet access in their bedrooms as my daughter had a nasty experience from accepting a stranger onto her msn and they accept and understand this now. My kids play in the livingroom usually with me watching, and use the opportunity to discuss some of the things that are going on. My children although underage did have fb, i set it up for them, made sure all there security was maxed and arranged settings on diffent folders to add people to. They do not chat on fb unless its through pm or one of their school friends etc. I think if you get to know your children well you can gauge which 'games' are ok for them to play. I dont like alot of the games and im terrible at playing them however i can make the sacrifice of a few hours of watching tv/ reading a book to watch my kids playing console games a week. My kids decide between them usually who can or should'nt really play which game and my son has actually left a friends house because they were playing a game that he didnt feel was right. Im honest with my kids, they know my feelings on alot of subjects and the reasoning behind it, but they know that i respect their thoughts/ opinions also. My kids and their friends have played the games over and over and at a risque bit will just say Mrs T cover your eyes and have a laugh about it.

vik6525

MonkeySaving? wrote: »

No, i'm simply saying that a 14yr old shouldn't be playing Black Ops.. Serbian film is out in the UK and rated 18 (with 4 mins+ cuts), the game is also rated 18 so kindly explain the difference between a child playing the game and watching the film.

Seriously, you need it explaining to you?

Having seen the film (uncut) and played the game, I can tell you that what you're trying to do is compare dog turd with chocolate.

courteener

cheepskate wrote: »

Facts are unfortunetly, that most children are abused by a member or friend of their own family. You just dont hear about it as it happens so many times for it to be worthy of any coverage..
Not saying not to be carefull with any online game, just the facts

Oh not to worry then, if it's only some children.

Is that the "there's no point in worrying about him being abused by nonces over the internet cos he's more likely to get abused at home" version of "if I don't give it to him he'll get it round his friends"?

kafkathecat wrote: »

Courteener, The age restriction is there to stop shops selling to children. It is like the sale of alcohol, children cannot buy it but a parent can give it to a child over 5 in their own home.

Giving alcohol to 5 year olds? That's some pretty excellent parenting right there.

kafkathecat wrote: »

I know a church minister's daughter who was married and pregnant at 17, please don't use generalised tabloid stereotypes.
'good parents are supposed to teach us to play by the rules'. If only it were that easy.

I see.

Good parents are supposed to buy things for their children that the child is prohibited by law from from buying for themselves?

Alcohol, fags, adult entertainment, it's completely up to the parent and nobody else is allowed to have an opinion about it?

Good parents are supposed to teach their child ways to get around the laws of the land, plus which laws to obey and which to ignore?

Good parents are supposed to do whatever is "easy"?

What "generalised tabloid stereotype" did I use? Quote please.

courteener

vik6525 wrote: »

Seriously, you need it explaining to you?

Having seen the film (uncut) and played the game, I can tell you that what you're trying to do is compare dog turd with chocolate.

If a moronic parent thought their child was mature enough to handle it and showed them A Serbian Film they'd be allowed to wouldn't they?

That's the similarity.

The law stops the child from doing it for themselves so the helpful parent facilitates it.

Never mind what the government, the police, the social workers, the teachers and most parents think, they think it's OK.

Jacks_xxx

My 22 year old son says so long as the kid doesn't already have problems with aggression Call of Duty Black Ops is Ok in his opinion for over 16s. He says he thinks 14 and 15 are a grey area, but anything younger is in his words "mental."

onlyroz

courteener wrote: »

Giving alcohol to 5 year olds? That's some pretty excellent parenting right there.

Completely off topic, but I think it's a good idea to gradually introduce children/teens to alcohol safely in the home, before they have the opportunity to go off and pickle their own livers in an unsupervised and haphazard fashion.

Regarding these games - I've let my 5-year-old play Zelda and Warcraft, which are 12-rated games that involve a certain amount of violence - but I wouldn't let him play an 18 game. My husband, who spends a lot of time playing games, isn't interested in COD (or any of the other war sims) because he thinks it's too real. He'd rather slay monsters in Warcraft/Doom/Halo etc, where there is an element of fantasy which brings you a step further away from reality.

On the whole, I don't think playing violent games will turn you into a monster, but I think that ultra-violent games shouldn't be sold to children (either directly or indirectly) because they are less able to distinguish between fantasy and reality. The age restrictions are there for a reason. The only game I've seen that has given me any long-term concern was Grand Theft Auto - I'm not too sure why *anybody* would want to play such a mindless and depraved game.

suited-aces

HeidiHi wrote: »

I thought that apart from the stark staring blooming obvious it was a bad idea to let your child play these games in online mode because p a e d o philes use the online mode to get an "in" into your child's life?

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

srsly?

Jacks_xxx

onlyroz wrote: »

Completely off topic, but I think it's a good idea to gradually introduce children/teens to alcohol safely in the home, before they have the opportunity to go off and pickle their own livers in an unsupervised and haphazard fashion.

Regarding these games - I've let my 5-year-old play Zelda and Warcraft, which are 12-rated games that involve a certain amount of violence - but I wouldn't let him play an 18 game. My husband, who spends a lot of time playing games, isn't interested in COD (or any of the other war sims) because he thinks it's too real. He'd rather slay monsters in Warcraft/Doom/Halo etc, where there is an element of fantasy which brings you a step further away from reality.

On the whole, I don't think playing violent games will turn you into a monster, but I think that ultra-violent games shouldn't be sold to children (either directly or indirectly) because they are less able to distinguish between fantasy and reality. The age restrictions are there for a reason. The only game I've seen that has given me any long-term concern was Grand Theft Auto - I'm not too sure why *anybody* would want to play such a mindless and depraved game.

5 is a little early though huh? :eek: