Dla to be replaced by pip

formaldehyde_perfume

But bunions can be very painful!

...:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

heater

Please leave a comment in support of Baroness Campbell and her stance on DLA!
http://diaryofabenefitscrounger.blogspot.com/

DomRavioli

Wow. I think I've found my new favourite thread, its nice to see people actually fighting their corners!

tonydw

what comes first stopping dla / or stopping human rights /or advice centers
or legal aid/ i believe the government look at it this way. no 1 stop supporting advice centers/ that way you cant go for help/ no 2 stop human rights. we may pay Brussels but we don't have to listen / no 3. whats. dla. i don't want our country to go bankrupt so i will try and work for this big society for free just as long as your pm and mps do the same

di3004

Interesting thread, but not had the chance to read through it properly as such yet.

With all these changes, I understand things are getting tougher.


Where does it leave the ones who have autism?
I know there is high function and low where some can cope better than others.

cit_k

Brassedoff wrote: »

Well done and I applaude your outlook and view. Too many claim to be disabled to receive the added benefits. I accept people are and get ill, but they are not disabled.

Really, no illness can cause a disability?
What a odd world you must live in.

Brassedoff wrote: »

I strongly object to people wanting to class themselves a disabled to receive benefit. There are many who do, swing the lead when needed, pull a masterclass in acting for doctors and that is for mental and physical claims.

Fraud rate on DLA is 0.5 percent, so yes, thats quite a few, but its a very small percentage of the total number of claimaints.

Brassedoff wrote: »

I do hope the proposed system weeds them out.

If you mean the PIP tests, its likely to have exactly the opposite effect, as they will move from placing greater emphasis on actual medical evidence, onto the report from the assessment, which will be produced by software (with the aim of failing 1 in 5 dla claimaints).
Fakers, without solid medical evidence, will be able to fake their condition on the day, and the genuine, who may have mountains of real evidence, are in a lottery.

Brassedoff wrote: »

I for one am prepared to have six monthly or annual testing if necessary.

That wont be up to you, the software will decide, and going by IB and ESA, it could be anything from 3 months between assessments to a couple of years.

Brassedoff wrote: »

The removal of DLA and BB's for this group who are intent in avoiding being made to work at all costs cannot come to soon.

I agree, fakers should lose benefits as soon as possible.
However, these moves are more likely to increase fraud, rather than decrease it, they certainly are not designed to detect it.

Brassedoff wrote: »

This was highlighted this week by a woman in Burbage, Leicestershire who tried claiming disabled benefits for bunions! She was housebound with them. She and her husband were morbidly obese, neither had worked for a many a few years and were furious that they were told to get off their backsides by the DWP. He claimed to be her carer, she (bunion woman) was distraught at being refused benefits because of her disability! (Brassedoff now has tin hat on ready for abuse for his post)

Ok, firstly do you have a link to the article.
Secondly, you dont say what benefits are in question (IB, ESA, DLA, Carers Allowance, a Mix of those or what).
Thirdly, it demonstrates nothing, if the dwp refused to pay, as that shows the system worked, a person put in a claim, the claim was assessed, they were told to take a hike.
Fourthly, its lacking in detail, as there is almost certainly going to be a lot more to the story than you describe, it sounds like a daily mail story, which has a history of misrepresenting facts, and missing vital facts out.

cit_k

petrolhead. wrote: »

I'm sorry but I think you are viewing your illness in a very narrow way.

This is never going to happen. You cannot and should not expect to have a specialist also trained in occupational health review you for work potential.
Everybody has different illnesses and conditions for a start. What about those that have complex problems? A queue of specialists waiting to review you in respect of each particular illness or condition. Come on, that is so totally unreasonable.

The assessor may not be interested in answers other than yes or no, but link that to your ESA50 and you have the full picture!

Have you never thought of the fact that the assessor may not believe what you are saying?
It is so easy to 'act' the sickness/illness. They have a hell of a job in trying to weed out the honest from the dishonest!

The assessor has to back up his opinion (but will fail to do so usually) as to why he thinks what you (or your gp) is saying is untrue.

cit_k

petrolhead. wrote: »

He's not interested!! All he wants to know is - can you carry out any of the descriptors?

Many people have complex problems yet manage to cope with life.

The rest of the info should be on your ESA50 - variables, explanations, examples, history etc. The Assessor does not need to know any of this. He is looking at you at that particular time.
Add the two bits of evidence together and the Decision Maker has the full picture.

Surely that's simple enough to understand.

Sorry, but the assessor is expected to [its actually gmc guidance, and reading everything is part of the atos guidance] have fully read all the available evidence (such as the claimaints esa form, and any additional evidence the claimant brings on the day) and must take it into consideration, and must justify / back up why their opinion differs from the evidence that they had, should it differ.

Decision makers, have been known to not deviate from atos reports in 98% of previous decisions according to the harrington report.

My last ESA assessment, the dwp sent the statement of reasons with the medical report, and it clearly showed (it had tick boxes for which evidence had been considered) that in making the decision, they had ignored

My original esa claim form
The ESA medical form I filled in (the one you get before the medical)
GP evidence
In fact, the ONLY thing ticked as a source of evidence used for the decision, was the box for the ATOS report.

cit_k

petrolhead. wrote: »

As I said - a narrow view.

All you are saying is that under current DLA regulations you do get money, so why should it change?

It has to change to take account of medical practices that evolved over the past 15/20 years for a start.

People intent on claiming DLA have learnt how to 'beat' the system. The time has come to lose those that see it as a free ride. If that means making it harder for everybody to get the new PIP - sobeit. It's a price that everybody has to pay.

If you are genuine then provided you still need care 24/7 (not some days and not others) then you have nothing to worry about.

Of course, you can back all the above up with evidence??

Brassedoff

pwales wrote: »

hi put the patch on a bit of skin that does not move or crease or wrincle
mine stay on at the top of my arms ...where they give you an injection..i was told another good place is shoulder blade ? never tried there

That's where my wife puts my three, left then right three days later. Shower and lay without a T on in bed and they stay on, she just puts the razor on after taking the old ones off. The skin and area calms down nearly within 12 hours.