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Dla to be replaced by pip

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  • Who said anything about MRC? I didn't. I don't even look at it that way. OK she has bad legs - many do, I have a MH problem, many do - money won't change it!

    Between us we manage - what I was saying is that no amount of extra money will make any difference to our way of life.

    My wife has artritis of both hips and knees, but that doesn't stop her cooking, cleaning or driving.

    I can't believe I fell for your story of not being able to walk 30 metres over on the CAG forum, and offered useful advice in good faith. I'm absolutely disgusted, and won't be advising you any further.
  • I can't believe I fell for your story of not being able to walk 30 metres over on the CAG forum, and offered useful advice in good faith. I'm absolutely disgusted, and won't be advising you any further.

    I am sorry but I think you have got hold of the wrong end of stick.

    My WIFE has arthritis which affects both of her hips and knees.

    ME - I have many conditions including MH. The main physical condition restricts my mobility due to constant and progressive pain. I CANNOT walk 30 metres, you would be lucky to get me to 5 metres on a bad day!

    As you know I have been on and off ESA - now off it again - on the assessment rate. I get DLA - LRM only!
    I don't need to claim DLA for care as my wife and family provide that for me. No amount of extra money would make the slightest difference to my life.
    I provide along with my daughter, care for my wife. A wheelchair to get around and a commode for downstairs should sort out her problems.
    My wife tried to get AA for her condition but failed as there is no medical evidence backing her case up as she hasn't spoken to her GP for 6 years about it. Just collects her repeat prescriptions.


    I do hope that explains things a little more clearer.


    Sorry for any confusion
  • oldestrocker
    oldestrocker Posts: 294 Forumite
    edited 13 December 2010 at 5:22PM
    hrafndot wrote: »
    I become angry when patronised by someone who is spouting political dogma but has little factual understanding. My appeal judge clearly thought I was being honest and truthful.

    I went through ESA initially like a lamb to the slaughter and went through 2 years of hell. I simply advise other people not to do similarly and get good advice from a person who understands the process.

    Some of the "professionhal form fillers" exist because people have difficulty holding a pen or are impossibly intimidated by the form(s).

    It may be the case that there are people that just can't write. Fine I accept that.

    But what was being said was that people should get a 'professional form filler' because they will know what the magic words are.
    The only 'magic words' are the TRUTH'

    The process is simple, you fill in a form saying how it is then you are assessed.

    Or maybe you are one of those that wants to or hopes to 'win' a claim by writing things down that could help, but not giving too much away in case that will be used against you.
    I have always filled in my forms myself, dealt with appeals etc.
    OK I have got it wrong sometimes - forgotten to put something down/not made things clear - that can all be resolved at the Tribunal, but never have I filled in a claim or an appeal on the basis that 'sod the truth' just say what they want to hear to get the benefit - whether it is all correct is another thing.

    As for me, I 'won' the ESA claim and was put in the work group. I believed it should be the support group. I appealed against the decision to put me in the work group. The DWP agreed and took me off the work group back onto the assessment rate. 24 days in the work group!!! Shortest in the history of ESA so far!!
    Kept my mouth shut and I would be £25pw better off. On point of principle I am back to square on. Do I regret it? NO
    They made the wrong decision - if it had been the support group I would have been happy.
  • hrafndot
    hrafndot Posts: 2,155 Forumite
    I think that as a result of your meanderings this thread's lost its point completely, nothing learned. I suppose that was your objective.

    Well you can hop off now and disturb another forum. Don't worry, there'll be another couple of trolls along in a moment.
  • The DWP have confirmed that disability living allowance (DLA) is to be abolished and replaced by a new benefit called Personal Independence Payment (PIP) in 2013/14. All existing DLA claimants will be reassessed for PIP once it is introduced.

    A brief consultation has begun – but not to decide whether to replace DLA, only to decide the finer details.

    From the scant information available, we look at what’s staying the same, what’s changing, why your ESA medical may also be your PIP medical and who is most likely to lose out with the introduction of PIP – designed to reduce spending on DLA by at least one fifth.

    Whether you have a PIP or an ESA medical, you can be sure that it will be Atos who carry it out. The coalition have now extended the Atos contract by a further three years, giving the multinational a virtually unbreakable stranglehold on benefits medicals.


    My comments have been in reply to others.
    PIP is a good step forward to rid this country of the many claimants that don't need it.
  • GlasweJen
    GlasweJen Posts: 7,451 Forumite
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    Middle rate care and low mobility is what I get which is apparently what your wife provides. This is the wife who can't get about and needs to use a commode in the kitchen!
  • Indie_Kid
    Indie_Kid Posts: 23,097 Forumite
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    As you know I have been on and off ESA - now off it again - on the assessment rate. I get DLA - LRM only!
    I don't need to claim DLA for care as my wife and family provide that for me. No amount of extra money would make the slightest difference to my life.

    You're lucky then. My communication needs alone (apparently, I don't have these - I have roughly 1/6th vision in one eye and 1/3rd in the other, plus damage to the optic disks and nerves) cost me at least £15 a week.
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  • hrafndot
    hrafndot Posts: 2,155 Forumite
    Old Strocker; to quote you

    "[FONT=&quot]Looks like I should be entitled too!! But why, I have no financial needs, my wife provides them, I have all the care I need free of charge - so what purpose would throwing money at me in the form of DLA give me that I am not getting already?[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]When I say mobility it came under the following headings:
    'fall, stumble and moving around indoors'
    A powered wheelchair would help with all these three problems my wife has."[/FONT]



    What with wee-ing in the kitchen, falling around, doing all the cooking, cleaning and driving as well as being your financial support, perhaps you could take some of the spare cash and chuck it in her direction? After all, it's Christmas!
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  • oldestrocker
    oldestrocker Posts: 294 Forumite
    edited 14 December 2010 at 11:18AM
    What with wee-ing in the kitchen, falling around, doing all the cooking, cleaning and driving as well as being your financial support, perhaps you could take some of the spare cash and chuck it in her direction? After all, it's Christmas!

    1. The commode was the idea of the DWP - not mine! There is no where else to put it, unless it is in the living room!!

    2. Yes she does look after the house and me. I also do my bit!

    3. She does not support me financially - her only income is £55pw OAP. The rest I provide out of my pensions that I paid into during my working life.

    4. We have everything we need so what would we do with more money for mine or hers disabilities? OK maybe a cruise or a new car. Why, we don't do holidays, we prefer to be with our children and as for a car, I have a 4 yr old BMW with very few miles on the clock, which will see us through the next 4 years until my wife's licence runs out when she is 70.

    This new DLA benefit should now for the very first time be re-looked at to provide for only things that are not there. Not what might be needed. Not what could be needed. If there is no need then there is no money!
    On top of that, let's clear the decks of these people that are using DLA is a top up of income to help pay for other things. And with regular testing it will solve the problem of people failing to inform the DLA that their health has improved.

    OK it will inconvenience some, but that is a price worth paying to get the Welfare Costs down to a more manageable level.
  • hrafndot
    hrafndot Posts: 2,155 Forumite
    I quoted you saying [FONT=&quot]"[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Looks like I should be entitled too!! But why, I have no financial needs, my wife provides them, I have all the care I need free of charge"[/FONT]


    Your wife provides your financial needs, and provides services free of charge despite her ill health, so why begrudge those who dare choose to use their DLA for vital things they need, like increased warmth when they don't get a winter fuel payment?


    Don't be mean spirited!
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