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oldestrocker

sh1305 wrote: »

Yes - but it takes hours or even days to recover. Put it this way, I had a test done about a year ago. I spent the rest of the day feeling as though I was drunk. That isn't exactly comfortable when having to get home.

I'm sorry to hear that.

We all - well most of us, suffer for hours or even days after some tests/physio.
It's a fact of life.

Too much money is being given to too many people in this country for disabilities.
No wonder the rest of Europe look at us and think that upwards of 50% of the UK population are disabled to some extent. Why UK, surely other countries should have the same problems? They don't!

The government are right to investigate what is happening to all of this money that is given out in ESA & DLA.

Times are a changing and the sooner the better!

Indie_Kid

oldestrocker wrote: »

Too much money is being given to too many people in this country for disabilities.
No wonder the rest of Europe look at us and think that upwards of 50% of the UK population are disabled to some extent. Why UK, surely other countries should have the same problems? They don't!

You make it sound like it's the UK's fault that people are disabled. There are at least 4 genetic conditions of some sort that run in my family. I have one, possibly another and carry another.

The government are right to investigate what is happening to all of this money that is given out in ESA & DLA.

Which doesn't mean take it away from the genuine sick who need it.

broxiebear1

my wife recieves dla high rate for life looking at her you wouldnt think she was disabled she dosnt have a wheelchair yet .her condition asthma from birth, closed angle glucomia, under active thyroid, has problems with her hip which consultant says that they cant do anything for her because if they operate she might end up in a wheelchair she is on dihydrocodine 30/500 painkillers and morphine patches never sleeps for one night without having to get up in pain yea she could do work for a day but she will suffer for a week after it so atos say shes fit for work takes her off dla how can she work when she is drugged up with painkillers and in constant pain for a week after she does push herself to do something .

oldestrocker

broxiebear1 wrote: »

my wife recieves dla high rate for life looking at her you wouldnt think she was disabled she dosnt have a wheelchair yet .her condition asthma from birth, closed angle glucomia, under active thyroid, has problems with her hip which consultant says that they cant do anything for her because if they operate she might end up in a wheelchair she is on dihydrocodine 30/500 painkillers and morphine patches never sleeps for one night without having to get up in pain yea she could do work for a day but she will suffer for a week after it so atos say shes fit for work takes her off dla how can she work when she is drugged up with painkillers and in constant pain for a week after she does push herself to do something .

Whatever medical condition she is suffering from is really of no concern to the DWP.
For ESA, they will only consider if she cannot perform the descriptors. There are jobs that can be done sat at home in a wheelchair.
As for DLA, they are only concerned on the care she needs and mobility.
Many work and claim DLA.
The main problem that I see is that people have got so used to getting benefits for almost anything in the past and now that it is changing, people are up in arms about it.
If only people would have a more positive outlook on life and see the things that they can do and not dwell on the negatives and things they can't do - this country would be in much better shape financially.
It is the Welfare Costs that is destroying the financial security of all of us.
I read in the Daily Mail over the weekend that more than 50% of the UK population agree with this hard line attitude being taken about welfare claimants. If that is the case, and we are living in a democratic society, surely the majority should outweigh the minority?

Today, only a quarter think welfare hand-outs should increase, while just a third say the gap between rich and poor should be narrowed by stiffer taxation.

In short, Britain is more Thatcherite in 2010 than when the Iron Lady was at the height of her popularity.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1338103/MPs-reflect-publics-new-mood-Margaret-Thatchers-way-thinking.html#ixzz185doeKoV

I claim ESA, and I'm not saying that your wife is not disabled, but even I and with respect, have a lot more things wrong with me than your wife seems to have, but am still on the assessment rate since Nov 09, excepting for a period of 24 days when I was in the work group.

I am fighting the system and testing whether the law is being applied fairly, not ranting and raving that I should get more money for my disabilities.

The money aspect is secondary, we manage now without it so if more did come along - then that would be a bonus. If not - well we just get on with our lives.
If you had the opinion that you can't always have what you want, then you would be more understanding of why this change has to happen.

Indie_Kid

oldestrocker wrote: »

If only people would have a more positive outlook on life and see the things that they can do and not dwell on the negatives and things they can't do - this country would be in much better shape financially.

How on earth can you do that when the forms asks for what you can't do?

If you had the opinion that you can't always have what you want, then you would be more understanding of why this change has to happen.

It's not a want - it's need. I need DLA to help me pay for the extra costs I have. In just 3 days, I've spent over £200 on disability related things. For me, that's more than one weeks' wages.

GlasweJen

A more positive outlook on life? I think that the criteria for mental health claimants should be tightened so that no one but the most severely mentally ill could enter the support group for ESA.

Oh sorry oldestrocker, aren't you mentally ill and trying to get into the support group for ESA so that you can get benefits for life and not work? My apologies!

Indie_Kid

GlasweJen wrote: »

Oh sorry oldestrocker, aren't you mentally ill and trying to get into the support group for ESA so that you can get benefits for life and not work? My apologies!

Yet, due to his age, he's entitled to pension credit. Makes no sense at all - either apply for pension credit and have no hassle or claim ESA and have to appeal to get it. I know which one I'd pick!

magicstrawberry

oldestrocker wrote: »

Whatever medical condition she is suffering from is really of no concern to the DWP.
For ESA, they will only consider if she cannot perform the descriptors. There are jobs that can be done sat at home in a wheelchair.
As for DLA, they are only concerned on the care she needs and mobility.
Many work and claim DLA.
The main problem that I see is that people have got so used to getting benefits for almost anything in the past and now that it is changing, people are up in arms about it.
If only people would have a more positive outlook on life and see the things that they can do and not dwell on the negatives and things they can't do - this country would be in much better shape financially.
It is the Welfare Costs that is destroying the financial security of all of us.
I read in the Daily Mail over the weekend that more than 50% of the UK population agree with this hard line attitude being taken about welfare claimants. If that is the case, and we are living in a democratic society, surely the majority should outweigh the minority?
I claim ESA, and I'm not saying that your wife is not disabled, but even I and with respect, have a lot more things wrong with me than your wife seems to have, but am still on the assessment rate since Nov 09, excepting for a period of 24 days when I was in the work group.

I am fighting the system and testing whether the law is being applied fairly, not ranting and raving that I should get more money for my disabilities.

The money aspect is secondary, we manage now without it so if more did come along - then that would be a bonus. If not - well we just get on with our lives.
If you had the opinion that you can't always have what you want, then you would be more understanding of why this change has to happen.

Firstly the daily mail is not the most balanced paper in the world and secondly how the heck can you judge that your worse than broxiebears wife from one brief post? and since when is it a contest? at the end of the day he lives seeing her in pain both he and his wife are the best to judge and thankfully its not your job to judge benefits but the DWP. Although there are some debate about the mental health side I wont get into that

nogginthenog

oldestrocker wrote: »

I'm sorry to hear that.

We all - well most of us, suffer for hours or even days after some tests/physio.
It's a fact of life.

Too much money is being given to too many people in this country for disabilities.
No wonder the rest of Europe look at us and think that upwards of 50% of the UK population are disabled to some extent. Why UK, surely other countries should have the same problems? They don't!

The government are right to investigate what is happening to all of this money that is given out in ESA & DLA.

Times are a changing and the sooner the better!

Many of the so called other countrys looking at us, have not been industrial power houses in their past,exept for Germany.
And working conditions in past days in this country have always been poor in comparison with the rest of Europe.
Britain is just paying back money to the people who made this country with blood and tears.

Indie_Kid

magicstrawberry wrote: »

how the heck can you judge that your worse than broxiebears wife from one brief post?

To one person, their pain is the worst they've experienced and to someone else, the same amount of pain is nothing.