Nice people thread part 3- Nice as pie

michaels

As with TT - I think you would be better trying to sell them something - your web skills - could you knock up a puff page and a website and show them how many hits you generated in a few days - I am sure there are others in here with the skills to advise you on how to advise them on fulfilment at the same time.

I have been looking for quotes from builders - not only do most of them not show up in Google, one yesterday asked me to mail (post) him the plans as he didn't 'do' electronic ones by email!

PasturesNew wrote: »

Isn't the Internet funny... well, I am always surprised and confounded when people seem to be running a successful business and yet fail to appear whatsoever in any search results. I'm known among friends as "Queen of Google" for my ability to dig out information - yet I have spent 60 solid hours googling the hell out of my latest subject, building the world's biggest resource list that I can dip into.... and suddenly, at 3am, I discovered that not only is there a shop I'd have been interested to know about just 35 miles away, but they also have an entire warehouse just 28 miles away and two further shops - one of which I have been within 200 yards of since I took up my new interest .... and they have managed to build a mini empire of a warehouse and 3 shops in total, quite close to me, without appearing in Google or Yahoo or Bing once in any of my searches. And when I've searched and found 20-30 pages of results for every search term I was seeking, I religiously went through every returned website for my list. These people do not exist online in search engine terms. I am staggered.

I can feel a shop/warehouse trip coming on .... perchance to purchase some shiny things.

Having seens PN's picture I think she should try sugardaddies.com

tomterm8 wrote: »

Er, you are on the moneysaverz board, if you go to richcapitalistdude.com and ask there, you might have better luck?:

I wonder if that URL is actually available... it's a pretty good one. LOL.

Hmm - My DW grew up in JA so I know the swear filter should be updated to exclude that sort of language - she is uncomfortable with 'B C'!

lemonjelly wrote: »

My colleague with whom I share an office, & is black responded thus when I read out your post:

"Ya woman dyam racist bumba clart!"

PasturesNew

tomterm8 wrote: »

There are a huge number of companies that have no web presence... if you are a local business, or own shops... there are still a million ways to sell goods offline. A lot of businesses don't have any internet budget at all...

I went into one of these type of shops that I am looking at .... and all the time I was in there nobody came in. Just me, one lonely customer. The staff were downloading orders from the Internet as they came in, must have been 3-4 orders fulfilled while I was in there.

It's not to be sneezed at.

Where I live, a chap had a Cheap Shoes shop. You know the type, to be found in any shabby street, trainers, footwear, all cheap. Stacked high. He actually had two shops in town. He started dabbling online and found he was selling more online than in the shops. It wasn't costing him anything as such because he'd already bought the stock in and had it, so he wasn't going to be stuck with anything that didn't sell. He closed one of his shops as online was a better return on his time investment, and easier.

If you've got a shop, why wouldn't you offer stuff online properly .... it just makes sense.

PasturesNew

vivatifosi wrote: »

What would happen if you went in and offered to set up an online store for them? It's something you're interested in and we can feel your passion for it. I'd go have a chat.

ETA: sorry, noticed that tt8 has posted something similar. I try to read chronologically so hadn't got to that post when I posted.

I'm setting up my own, so there's no point being paid a few quid to make theirs better, if it means I'm queering my own pitch

PasturesNew

GDB2222 wrote: »

Why do ordinary people just put up with things?

Let me explain the circumstances. I own a flat a few miles from my home, which I let out, but I don't get to visit it very often. I jut visited it and I found the whole road awash with mud from a big development going on next door. Drains blocked, road partly flooded - the works. It's like a swamp.

So, I got back home, phoned planning enforcement, and they are going straight onto it - they expect an improvement by Monday. It's a normal planning requirement to have wheel washing for contractors' vehicles leaving the site, but that's not being done. My guess is that this has been going on like this for months, so why am I the only one to complain? It's not just that I evidently have too much time on my hands; I was really offended by the lack of consideration from these very large builders.

I didn't know you could complain.

Having lived in the country, where the roads are full of mud every it's harvest time and whenever it rains, I just take muddy roads as the norm.

I've never heard of any poncey wheel washing - and certainly never seen any of it going on. Maybe you London lot are soft.

PasturesNew

lemonjelly wrote: »

My colleague with whom I share an office, & is black responded thus when I read out your post:

"Ya woman dyam racist bumba clart!"

I read all the way to the bottom, assuming somebody'd have asked this .....

!!!!!! does that mean?????

tomterm8

PasturesNew wrote: »

I went into one of these type of shops that I am looking at .... and all the time I was in there nobody came in. Just me, one lonely customer. The staff were downloading orders from the Internet as they came in, must have been 3-4 orders fulfilled while I was in there.

It's not to be sneezed at.

Where I live, a chap had a Cheap Shoes shop. You know the type, to be found in any shabby street, trainers, footwear, all cheap. Stacked high. He actually had two shops in town. He started dabbling online and found he was selling more online than in the shops. It wasn't costing him anything as such because he'd already bought the stock in and had it, so he wasn't going to be stuck with anything that didn't sell. He closed one of his shops as online was a better return on his time investment, and easier.

If you've got a shop, why wouldn't you offer stuff online properly .... it just makes sense.

Well, most small business owners have... hurdles... so for example, some people don't handle employees well, others aren't so good at sales, some people don't know how to use computers.

Most people who own businesses don't have the skills you have. If you don't have the skills, you either have to hire someone in, or buy them in.

And most people with the skills you have aren't selling them, they are incredibly valuable.

99% of the human population do not know even the basics of setting up a business online.

PasturesNew wrote: »

I'm setting up my own, so there's no point being paid a few quid to make theirs better, if it means I'm queering my own pitch

Er, it is possible to introduce yourself as a partner... rather than an employee. i.e. ask if they are interested in drop shipping produce etc. That way, you have all the infrastructure set up to deliver the goods, and you are left doing the stuff you are really good at.

michaels

This is the nice people thread so no answers here - I haven't checked but I suspect the Urban dictionary will be your friend.

PasturesNew wrote: »

I read all the way to the bottom, assuming somebody'd have asked this .....

!!!!!! does that mean?????

Wheezy_2

bumbaclart

I never heard it before...you really learn something new every day

GDB2222

PasturesNew wrote: »

I didn't know you could complain.

Having lived in the country, where the roads are full of mud every it's harvest time and whenever it rains, I just take muddy roads as the norm.

I've never heard of any poncey wheel washing - and certainly never seen any of it going on. Maybe you London lot are soft.

The planning department don't have any choice about farmers harvesting their fields. However, for urban developments around here, wheel washing is a standard condition for granting planning permission. We're just not geared up for mud all over the place.

Do you have pavements where you are, with people walking to the shops/bus/tube, pushing prams to school (to collect their older kids, silly!)?

vivatifosi

GDB2222 wrote: »

Why do ordinary people just put up with things?

Let me explain the circumstances. I own a flat a few miles from my home, which I let out, but I don't get to visit it very often. I jut visited it and I found the whole road awash with mud from a big development going on next door. Drains blocked, road partly flooded - the works. It's like a swamp.

So, I got back home, phoned planning enforcement, and they are going straight onto it - they expect an improvement by Monday. It's a normal planning requirement to have wheel washing for contractors' vehicles leaving the site, but that's not being done. My guess is that this has been going on like this for months, so why am I the only one to complain? It's not just that I evidently have too much time on my hands; I was really offended by the lack of consideration from these very large builders.

My theory is that most people haven't got a clue and the developers have banked on that which is why they haven't bothered. The more they don't bother, the less they have to pay and the more money for them, so you can see their motivation.

In terms of the neighbours, I don't think they fully understand planning. You've only got to see the posts from surprised people over on the moving board saying things like "surely they aren't allowed to build an extension when I'm living next door"? It has probably never dawned on them that wheel washing is a condition of the build, any more than they understand S106 agreements or anything else. It's a pita though.