Why should public sector be better off?

FATBALLZ

amandada wrote: »

Just for info, Police Officers can retire after 30 years service because they pay a lot more into their pensions-a MINIMUM of 11% of their salary.

I've been a local authority employee for almost 20 years and think I must have been looking in all the wrong places for the perks because I sure as hell haven't had any!


I'd also like to point out that local authority staff are NOT civil servants-they have a non contributory pension (so far) but local authority certainly don't

Meanwhile in the real world 11% of salary for 30 years will not buy you anything like a half decent pension for anyone except the exceptionally well paid.

Gavin83

WhiteHorse wrote: »

When organisations like Atos Origin, the DWP (or the Civil Service in general), or the NHS come in for criticism, the response is immediate and fierce.

You can criticise commercial organisations like BP, the railway companies, or ICI, and yet you don't get that sort of vitriolic response from employees.

Which may tell you something.

There are a much smaller percentage of people who work for these companies though. Im sure if you went to a BP forum and created a topic saying that all BP employees are lazy, Im sure you'd get a pretty aggressive response.

avinabacca

karens wrote: »

One day, the wheel will come full circle and you will find yourself on the ground looking up.....

Indeed.

What a nasty, bitter and deluded person you seem to be.

karens_3

avinabacca wrote: »

Indeed.

What a nasty, bitter and deluded person you seem to be.

It's quite alright to insult a 65 year old lady, then? You wouldn't criticize those comments on this thread? I think that says a great deal about the people who write them.

suited-aces

None of us brought your grandmother into this, you did. You were using her to have a cheap daily mail inspired pop at hard working civil servants. Hardly a model grand daughter.

clemmatis

FATBALLZ wrote: »

Meanwhile in the real world 11% of salary for 30 years will not buy you anything like a half decent pension for anyone except the exceptionally well paid.

first, the way the public sector pensions are supposed to be funded is this: employee and employer both contribute, and the money's invested, and the interest compounded. Second, the police aren't representative. My father was a public servant, he took early retirement, on a reduced pension, at 60, after working for more than 40 years (if his war service counted). Third, the public sector pension schemes are going to change, they have to; and some already have.

This does not help karens's grandmother but flinging insults at public sector workers doesn't either.

(Karens, I am a 64 year old lady... .)

eyeinthesky

I am an ex civil servant, and risked my life doing my job on a daily basis. My pension was non-contributory, but my salary was reduced by 11% to match my outside counterparts. I effectively contributed 11% of my salary to fund my pension, and did so for 27 years, so my contribution was around £70k. I was responsible for 17 staff, and buildings and vehicles running into many millions of £s.
After my job caused me hearing damage, I was medically retired on a pension of £8k per year. Not very gold plated, is it? Still, I have a hearing aid in each ear, and still struggle to have a normal conversation in a quiet room, without asking people to speak up a bit! Nice work if you can get it! Perks?, what are they?

avinabacca

karens wrote: »

It's quite alright to insult a 65 year old lady, then? You wouldn't criticize those comments on this thread? I think that says a great deal about the people who write them.

I think your original post, mean-spirited, shortsighted and selfish as it is, equally says plenty about you.

Whether or not someone else chooses to make comments about your grandmother has absolutely no bearing on the bitter and jealous way that you, her granddaughter, choose to live your life.

I'm really not sure what kind of moral high ground you believe you claim the right to......

cherie1122

It's 7.30 now and I'm off out to go and sit in my nice cosy office drinking tea all day.

Seriously, I'm off to work, the office will be cold because the heating doesn't work properly and I won't be drinking tea till I get back home again because I choose not to pay the very high prices they charge in our canteen. We buy our own pens, notebooks etc. because of the cut backs - it's no picnic.

I don't think my working life is much different from a lot of other public sector workers but it's a job ..........

Caroline73_2

cherie1122 wrote: »

It's 7.30 now and I'm off out to go and sit in my nice cosy office drinking tea all day.

Seriously, I'm off to work, the office will be cold because the heating doesn't work properly and I won't be drinking tea till I get back home again because I choose not to pay the very high prices they charge in our canteen. We buy our own pens, notebooks etc. because of the cut backs - it's no picnic.

I don't think my working life is much different from a lot of other public sector workers but it's a job ..........

One day I forgot a pen and had to go around asking people to borrow a spare one etc. When I told my private sector working husband (we have rivetting conversations) and he asked me why I hadn't gone and got one from the stationery cupboard. Total niavety.