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Why should public sector be better off?

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  • kathy206
    kathy206 Posts: 1,438 Forumite
    murphyg wrote: »
    must admit quite glad the public sector is beginning to feel the pain......I know of 2 dustbin men and their childminder wives who can afford 1 detached house each for them to live in and then bought another 8 each to rent out, go on 2/3 holidays each per year and spend most days at home.........not bad work eh if you can get it -which you can't - and before anybody has a whinge about that my uncle was a council employee and described it as being an absolute doss....

    Bitter, much? Maybe if you channelled your energies into bettering your own situation rather than slating public sector workers then you wouldn't have time to be so preoccupied with other people's situations and eaten up with jealousy.You have no idea how these "dustbin men and their childminder wives" have afforded these houses, maybe they were just a bit canny in the property boom period or came into a bit of money on the bingo. If it was such a "doss" for your uncle while he worked for the council then why did he leave, if it's such a big bag of fun working there? People like you with this "it's not fair" attitude make me sick spouting such rubbish.
    Nuts oh Hazelnuts:rotfl:
  • murphyg
    murphyg Posts: 29 Forumite
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    actually dear, bitter much, not at all......quite happy with my lot funnily enough unlike most people.....
  • kathy206
    kathy206 Posts: 1,438 Forumite
    You dear, were the one quite gleefully celebrating that some public sector workers will be feeling the pinch, and then go on to vent your spleen at "dustbin workers and their childminder wives........" or are my eyes deceiving me? If you are quite happy with your lot, then why pour scorn on other people's situations?:cool:
    Nuts oh Hazelnuts:rotfl:
  • Mankysteve
    Mankysteve Posts: 4,257 Forumite
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    murphyg wrote: »
    must admit quite glad the public sector is beginning to feel the pain......I know of 2 dustbin men and their childminder wives who can afford 1 detached house each for them to live in and then bought another 8 each to rent out, go on 2/3 holidays each per year and spend most days at home.........not bad work eh if you can get it -which you can't - and before anybody has a whinge about that my uncle was a council employee and described it as being an absolute doss....

    He would have not been able to buy a house and other properties off a bin man wage packet. That just rubbish that your spouting come on have a think about it

    What most likly would have most likely brought a coucil house on the cheap though one of right to buy schemes and worked the ladder like a lot of people have done


    Then use the collateral from that house to buy one to rent then brought another and another forming a business and that how he affords to do these things.

    Not his house fault he's a decent business man even if he also chooses to work as a bin man.
  • i wish i could afford to retire at 60
    if able- and i am not burnt out i will be working till i am at least 70...
    and fyi i am paying into a pension.
    btw i work in the public sector.
    credit card bill. £0.00
    overdraft £0.00
    Help from the state £0.00
  • KxMx
    KxMx Posts: 11,221 Forumite
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    Your Nan will also get a free bus pass, Winter Fuel Payment, Cold Weather Payment, likely a level of help with rent and council tax, and Pension credit as mentioned.

    Todays pensioners are looking like the best off in terms of benefits and retirement ages these days.
  • murphyg
    murphyg Posts: 29 Forumite
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    On a serious note, however, good luck to everybody cos lets face it............we all need it!!!!
  • pimento
    pimento Posts: 6,243 Forumite
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    i wish i could afford to retire at 60
    if able- and i am not burnt out i will be working till i am at least 70...
    and fyi i am paying into a pension.
    btw i work in the public sector.

    Yes, me too.
    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." -- Red Adair
  • sjaypink
    sjaypink Posts: 6,740 Forumite
    edited 5 December 2010 at 8:20PM
    karens wrote: »
    Pompous idiot! You think low-paid workers can afford to put ANYTHING away? Don't accuse me of being ill-informed! You probably don't think such people exist! Or, if you do, you probably think it serves them right.
    :rotfl: Get over yourself. You are so ill informed and presumptuous it is laughable.

    It serves people like you right, thinking you can vent your misguided anger without being picked up on just how wide of the mark you are. What did you want or expect? A band of sheep nodding their sorry little heads in agreement, or internet ((((hugs)))) about how life is so unfair for people like you, it must be the fault of people like them. :cool:

    I've been on NMW, I've been on the bones of my arse (and am hardly sitting on well cushioned buttocks now !!!!!!), I know precisely who these low-paid workers are - they are myself, my family, my friends, my neighbours on my council estate. If we choose, we can afford to go out into town and get trashed at the weekend, we afford to run cars, smoke 20 lamberts a day, get our hair highlighted, have a plasma telly, go to Butlins, buy the kids a DS, take them to Maccy Ds or order a Dominoes. We CAN afford to put something away if we choose.
    We can also choose to either stay in a life of NMW or go to college in the evenings, work overtime to try and get a promotion, take a second job, look into the open university.

    Fact is, most don't. TBF, its probably not even worth doing so in the current system, maybe your Nan is more shrewd than some might give her credit for. Difference being though, most who have been pretty reckless in such ways will at least have the sense to realise, actually, maybe the £££s off the state by way of state pensions, benefits, top-ups and discounts is not such a bad deal in return for doing absolutely bugger all to prepare for retirement themselves. ;)

    One things for certain though, nobody I know would be stupid enough to think it was a terrible deal and worthy of starting a thread on the internet to blame others :rotfl:

    You've had your rant but you were wrong. Deal with it. We've established public sector workers are not all living the high life and your Nan is not living on £97 per week.

    As stated, why not make better use of your time and look around these boards for ideas on how to help your Nan make her £97 - and pension guarantee credit, and/or LHA, and/or CT benefit, and/or free travel passes, and/or winter fuel allowance, and/ or cold weather payments, and/or christmas bonus (<- most of which you won't get if in receipt of a public sector or private pension :cool:) etc etc - go further :A
    We cannot change anything unless we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses. Carl Jung

  • adandem
    adandem Posts: 3,592 Forumite
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    Look at this way - of you've not paid into a pension fund and had part time jobs - you probably haven't contributed the full amount either but you can still claim.
    On the other hand myself and OH will never live long enough to claim back anywhere near what we've contributed in tax and NI. We'll probably pay tax on our pension and won't be entitled to any 'extras'.
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