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Next Door Complains About Bass .. Need Advice
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As an experiment why don't you put some of your music on at around 7pm this evening at a modest level and then pop round to the complaining neighbour and ask her if she can hear it and whether you can come in and listen.
Do you think it's possible that it's not your music that she's hearing but someone else's, if as you say, you don't whack it up to an unreasonable level when you're not using headphones?0 -
MY MUSIC IS NOT LOUD! ... Simple as that. I've said it 1000 times if you'd read properly. My neighbor can hear music, but she does not define a level at what it can be heard. I know for sure it is not loud.
And to finish the landlord will never know I use my bedroom to make a living. As far as he and anyone else are concerned it's a hobby and I create tracks to play out in clubs when I DJ.
Does your neighbour also complain about the TV then? Or just the music? If your music is any louder than the TV noise and it can be heard by your neighbour, then in my opinion it's too loud.
Do you know that by operating a business without telling your LL you could be causing him to breach the conditions of his lease, and potentially invalidating his insurance?
Oh and I've just youtubed what dubstep is and I would literally cry if I found a dubstep producer (or any other music producer/dj/music enthusiast for that matter) was going to be moving into the flat above me.0 -
Bass travells really far and really loud through floorboards. Even if it's near silent in your own room, it is probably about the same loudness in next door's room too. Subwoofers are truly anti-social in flats.0
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You've read it wrong. Totally wrong.
MY MUSIC IS NOT LOUD! ... Simple as that. I've said it 1000 times if you'd read properly. My neighbor can hear music, but she does not define a level at what it can be heard. I know for sure it is not loud.
I said I listen to it through the speakers to separate audio frequencies so when I play it in a club it's well mixed. Mixing down is not "emulating" how it would sound in a club. I've never had the music so loud that you can't have a conversation.
And to finish the landlord will never know I use my bedroom to make a living. As far as he and anyone else are concerned it's a hobby and I create tracks to play out in clubs when I DJ.
So how come your neighbour can hear it in another property entirely if it is not loud?
And you're right - the landlord probably will never know that you are full-time DJ using his premises for your art. He'll will misunderstand the situation entirely and just chuck you out for being an inconsiderate moron playing rubbish loud music and will never know about your profession.0 -
Does your neighbour also complain about the TV then? Or just the music? If your music is any louder than the TV noise and it can be heard by your neighbour, then in my opinion it's too loud.
Do you know that by operating a business without telling your LL you could be causing him to breach the conditions of his lease, and potentially invalidating his insurance?
Oh and I've just youtubed what dubstep is and I would literally cry if I found a dubstep producer (or any other music producer/dj/music enthusiast for that matter) was going to be moving into the flat above me.
The TV is in the living room. 2 rooms apart. There is also a concrete wall that seperates our apartment with the other neighbor the opposite side.
As for the operating a business question the landlord would never know I use music to make a living. Unless the tax man was to inform the landlord. The landlord knows I am a DJ and that's how I earn money but he don't know I produce music and make money from that.
It's a silly debate. Because a lot of people have the same equipment as me and do it as a hobby and make no money from it. The only difference between it being a hobby and a business is that Joe Bloggs asks me to remix his track and I get paid for it.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
So how come your neighbour can hear it in another property entirely if it is not loud?
And you're right - the landlord probably will never know that you are full-time DJ using his premises for your art. He'll will misunderstand the situation entirely and just chuck you out for being an inconsiderate moron playing rubbish loud music and will never know about your profession.
I'm sorry but your comment is silly. You've invalidated your own credibility to comment.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
Running a business from your home is usually [a] not allowed in flats not allowed in rented flats.I live in an expensive, private, apartment complex in the city center.
In my bedroom I have some music production equipment which. I produce Dubstep for a living.
While some activities are fine, e.g. JK Rowling writing books.... producing music would definitely be up there with "Ferkin annoying cahnt"
Sound travels through materials. It can sound lounder elsewhere than in your place, especially certain frequencies and harmonics.I could understand if it was actually loud, but I struggle to hear it at times
You like that music - you're forcing it on others who don't want it, don't like it - and it's annoying.
Sounds like a really loud, annoying thing to be doing.But, I have to use the speakers when monitoring the audio frequencies to ensure that when it's played in a club it sounds good (audio mastering).
They can give you notice to quit, 2 months' notice on a rent date, or to quit at the end of your AST.I don't know what to do.
Legally can my landlord evict me right away? Or would they have to have some proof that the music is beyond a legal level?
Have you investigated self-storage? Some of those allegedly allow noisy hobbies to be carried out.I can't stop not producing music because I will lose my income, and I can't move to a studio unit until I've saved some money. I'm in a catch 22.
Loud in your opinion - and sound travels.But in all honesty I do not play it loud and I ensure it's off at 7pm.
She probably is being reasonable, it's just you that's not probably.I have spoke to the lady next door she seemed reasonable but it looks like she's not.0 -
As for the operating a business question the landlord would never know I use music to make a living. Unless the tax man was to inform the landlord. The landlord knows I am a DJ and that's how I earn money but he don't know I produce music and make money from that.
It's a silly debate.
There's a chance that the freeholders of the building will get involved if you don't resolve this with your neighbour and it could come out then. Even if he doesn't care that you are annoying the neighbours, the freeholders might make it very difficult for him to allow you to stay.
Or that something happens that requires a claim on the insurance, but they won't pay out because the insurers find out.
He could also be breaching his mortgage conditions.
Just because you don't think he'll find out doesn't make it OK.0 -
This is getting to silly argumentative levels again. Rightly or wrongly, the OP was just asking what his legal situation was as regards his tenancy. Not for judgmental comments from people who don't know enough about the situation to make those judgments.
I can speak from experience. I often use my puter in the early hours. I had my 80 year old neighbour (obviously very sensitive hearing) complain she could hear me tapping away at the keyboard (I play sounds through my headphones, never thru the speakers so it wasn't that). I had my pc against an opposite wall to her place in the kitchen/diner.., and there's a full cavity wall between us.
Some people are more sensitive to sounds than others.
The OP has already suggested will partially mix the sound, and finish it off in more suitable premises.., so for goodness give them a break lol. Try and give actually useful advice rather than use this site to vent! That's what it is for.., constructive advice.0
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