If you really want a pay rise do this...

geordie_joe

nykied wrote: »

But if you got those Slade cds back and you could only play them one day a year, would you rather play them a day earlier each year or on December 31st every year?

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Obviously it would be better to play the CD on 31 December. You can have a rocking good new years eve party with a Slade CD

alexlyne

a month (or so) on since first seeing this thread, and i can't believe this thread is still going!! with mumbles writing the same thing in every single post of his!
ha ha

He's got a plan. He thinks it works.. no one agrees... let's move on eh? 483 posts is ridiculous!

Ciske

Great brain teaser, it's like the hare and the turtle!

The system falls down because after 12 years, your 10 month gap will see you take a holiday in the first and last month of year, which is not allowed by your employer. You will then need to take a one off 23 month gap between holidays to make sure the system can continue. Or quit the job and get a full month's pay deducted for holidays taken but not accrued.

As with all scams, it relies on short term thinking and poor maths.

elvis86

I'm under no illusions, it would take a better person that I to persuade mumbles that s/he is wrong, but I just like proving I'm right!:D So...

You start working for a company on January 1st 2000, being paid £20k per year and accruing 1 months' holiday per year (for arguments sake).

In December 2000 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

After working for 10 months, in November 2001 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

After working for 10 months, in October 2002 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

After working for 10 months, in September 2003 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

After working for 10 months, in August 2004 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

After working for 10 months, in July 2005 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

After working for 10 months, in June 2006 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

After working for 10 months, in May 2007 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

After working for 10 months, in April 2008 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

After working for 10 months, in March 2009 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

After working for 10 months, in February 2010 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

After working for 10 months, in January 2011 you take a months' leave. Between 1st January and 31st December you've been paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

You are then unable to bring your month's leave any further forward, as in 2011 you took the first month of the year off and had to work February - December (11 months) in order to retrospectively accrue this leave.

So, applying mumbles' (twisted) logic, you are now in a position where you either take January off every year and work the rest of the year to retrospectively accrue the holiday (thus maintaining 11 months' work between holidays), or you work in excess of 11 months before taking a holiday at some other point in the year. Regardless, between 1st January and 31st December of all subsequent years, you'll be paid £20k for working 11 months and taking a months' holiday.

Furthermore, if you leave the job prior to December in any given year, the holiday which you had taken but not accrued is going to be deducted from your final salary (ie take leave in January and leave at the end of June, and half a month's salary will be deducted as you'd only accrued half a months' leave yet had taken a whole month).

You are no better off than your colleage, who has worked 11 months of each year and taken a months' leave whenever it suited them, and been paid £20k. Period.

nykied

But if you got those Slade cds back and you could only play them one day a year, would you rather play them a day earlier each year or on December 31st every year?

geordie_joe

nykied wrote: »

But if you got those Slade cds back and you could only play them one day a year, would you rather play them a day earlier each year or on December 31st every year?

I would play them on 31 December every year, if I followed your scheme, after 364 years I'd be playing it on 1st Jan, and I don't like listening to Slade when I have a hangover.

nykied

geordie_joe wrote: »

I would play them on 31 December every year, if I followed your scheme, after 364 years I'd be playing it on 1st Jan, and I don't like listening to Slade when I have a hangover.

Good point. My scheme was wrong. I was wrong. I've wasted everyone's time.



See, Mumbles, it ain't so hard after all!

mumbles_one

mumbles_one wrote: »

If you only have one day's holiday per year is it better to take the same day every year (dec 31) OR take a day slightly earlier every year??? because if its better to take it earlier every year then better implies it has some value.

please don't post anything unless you can answer that question as you are only avoiding the issue and not progressing this post

why won't anyone answer?????? its because you can't

geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

why won't anyone answer?????? its because you can't

I answered in post #481.

Maybe other people haven't answered because they know you just won't listen.

You are still ignoring my question of how can you take holidays you haven't accrued when you say all your employers would only let you take holidays after you have accrued them.

Why won't you answer????? is it because you can't?

benrsmith31077

Seriously guys, give it up.

http://www.simonpreacher.com/blog/proclivity/never-argue-with-a-fool/