Tipping - Do you?

nicolax

i tip in restarants when im out with a group of friends - but only really because of social pressure, i feel i have to because everyone else is
the waitresses are being paid, usually not too bad a wage for the job, yet others on low paid jobs (shop workers etc) dont get tips yet work just as hard
in fact a friend who was a waitresses about 2 years ago was getting paid quite a bit more in basic pay (over £6 per hour) than me and other friends who worked in shops and were on minimum wage, and then had tips on top of that

Mk14:37

HariboJunkie wrote: »

While your theory may be based on a sound principle, unfortunately it doesn't work in practise. Just because you believe that an employer should pay a decent wage to ensure tips aren't necessary, that doesn't mean that if you refuse to tip, the employer is going to pay the staff more. :cool:

The employer is required by law to pay at least the National Minimum Wage. There is no NMW in the USA, which is why there is a tipping culture - apparently, waiting staff genuinely need this to make up their wages (and are taxed on their tips).

There are plenty of employees on NWM in other industries who don't receive tips - why should waiting staff be so special? And I stress waiting staff, because if you've had a great meal it's because everyone in the restaurant - chefs, kitchen porters, pot washers, cleaners, hosts and managers have all done their job. Do you tip them all?

steviewander

minnie123 wrote: »

Well I am going to sound really mean because I don't tip. I think the staff (Waiters, Waitresses or Hairdressers) are getting paid their wage for doing that job so why should I tip them more. Some people will say tip them because they are low paid - well my answer is get more qualifications and a better paying job then. And yes I have done waitressing and no I don't belive it's a skilled job that is why they only pay them minimum wage because anyone can do it. SORRY!!

I agree that you sound really mean!! Not everyone is able to get qualifications for highly paid jobs for various reasons beyond their control. And in any case, not all jobs get tipped are unskilled. Hairdressing is a very skilled job,yet are amongst the most poorly paid professions about. I don't think you can say that hairdressers are on minimum wage because anyone can do it. Tipping is simply a way of showing appreciation for those who give particularly good personal service whilst knowing full well that they are amongst the lowest paid professionals around through very little fault of their own. Be thankful that there are good waiting staff and hairdressers about, since we all know there are plenty of bad ones about.

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steviewander wrote: »

I agree that you sound really mean!! Not everyone is able to get qualifications for highly paid jobs for various reasons beyond their control. And in any case, not all jobs get tipped are unskilled. Hairdressing is a very skilled job,yet are amongst the most poorly paid professions about. I don't think you can say that hairdressers are on minimum wage because anyone can do it. Tipping is simply a way of showing appreciation for those who give particularly good personal service whilst knowing full well that they are amongst the lowest paid professionals around through very little fault of their own. Be thankful that there are good waiting staff and hairdressers about, since we all know there are plenty of bad ones about.

Im sorry but I pay £9 for an all over with a bit of a fringe, which hairdresser is on minimum wage again?

My ethos is I wouldnt tip someone to do something i'd rather do myself, and at least then I know my cutlery will be clean and my order correct.

BigAndy_79

Call me whatever you like, but I would very rarely tip. Why ? 'Cos I feel that they are already being paid for the service that they are providing. Charity begins at home and all that jazz. I also would be perfectly happy to not adhere to certain tipping cultures if I was in the States. Both my folks and my sister experienced pretty appauling service in taxis and in a restaurant in the U.S., yet they still virtually ordered that they be given a tip on top of what the fare / bill was. Absolutely disgraceful, in my mind. I can assure you that they wouldn't have been getting anything from me had I have been there !

Yes, I would tip a little if the service has been personel and they have been genuinely nice and welcoming to me. I feel that those who go the extra mile deserve more in every working field....

Oldbiggles

BigAndy_79 wrote: »

Call me whatever you like, but I would very rarely tip. Why ? 'Cos I feel that they are already being paid for the service that they are providing. ....

Big Andy is correct.

Good service should be the norm, not something you have to pay extra for. So tipping should not be encouraged. If you get bad service, then complain and get the bill reduced. Staff in any service industry should receive an appropriate salary. Having to rely on tips to make up a decent wage is wrong and the only way it will stop is if everyone refused to tip. The underpaid staff would not stay in the job until the salary improved.

How many times have you had bad service but did nothing about it???

steviewander

[quote=[Deleted User];39082076]Im sorry but I pay £9 for an all over with a bit of a fringe, which hairdresser is on minimum wage again?

My ethos is I wouldnt tip someone to do something i'd rather do myself, and at least then I know my cutlery will be clean and my order correct.[/QUOTE]

Statistics show that hairdressers are amongst the poorly paid of any profession: http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/dec/18/uks-best-paid-jobs

At a median average wage of £12,844 a year, this is lower than the average for a supermarket checkout worker, a shelf stacker or a retail assistant. So I maintain that there are plenty of hairdressers that are on minimum wage. £9 for an all over colour and a fringe trim is a bargain! That salon won't be around for much longer if they can afford to give all over colours away for £9. How much do you think colour/tint costs, along with the hair products, hot water, electricity and labour costs? Anyone who knows the cost of running a business with labour dependent and high overhead costs will know that.

whatyadoinsucka

Staff in any service industry should receive an appropriate salary

they do only if they get tips, if alot of restaurants paid minimum wage correctly the menu prices would go up considerably.

a good service deserves a tip 10-20%, so its quite rare i tip, especially now as every other restaunratn seems to be a chain that has popped up in every town and city in britain

mcjordi

yes.. mainly taxi's and takeaway drivers..

the latter as i used to do it and tips made my wage a good one. plus i know 99% of the drivers round by me anyway..
taxi's -again yes.

the better the service the better the tip, normally keep the change sort of tip sometimes up to £2.

shedsounds

I refer to Reservoir Dogs for my policy on tipping. I hate it and only will when there has been particularly good service, if its been a normal level, then thats how it should be and I wont tip. I am expected to do my job to a certain standard and I get my wage, If I do it particularly well then nobody pays me any extra. Where does the line exist? If I go to a drive though mcdonalds I usually get a special order (I prefer them and freshly cooked) so someone ha to bring it to my car - should I tip them? More inclined to think I should but who would in Maccy D's?