How to deter dog pooing in my garden

MrCrusher

You could either:

Buy a large catapult and "shoot" the dog with a very large ball of tinfoil, needs to be about 2 inch diameter, it's none lethal and the noise of the impact will shock the dog. DO NOT USE 10MM STEEL SHOT even if you are tempted. That'll probably work on the 6foot 6 skinhead though.

Get hold of a large empty sweets tin, big Qual Street or Roses. Put a hand full of nails, BB's, etc in it- anything that wiil make a loud noise when shook or thrown at the dog. Again, the noise will frighten the dog.

If your garden is edged by a footpath, pour a strong smelling thick bleach along the edges of the path, this will usually deter most dogs from crossing the boundary. Repeat as and when neccessary.

If all else fails, report it to your local authority.

Hope this helps

everythingblogcast

Debt_Free_Chick wrote:

See my previous post. She has marked out certain areas in the house as a toilet. So she will wander around the house, sniffing out "the toilet" and pee there.

You will need to completely clean the affected area and remove every trace of dog pee.

In addition, you need to "catch her in the act" and give her a very sharp "NNOOOO!!!". Remember, you can only scold her if you catch her in the act - she simply MUST associate the rebuke with the wrong act. No point in "talking" to her later and trying to explain what's wrong. You must scold her precisely at the point when she pees and not a second later.

HTH

You also need to push her nose in it, but you may need some help, because they hate it, like they should. Due to them hating it they put up a great fight. If is !!!! or poo do the same, then she will learn.

WeirdoMagnet

everythingblogcast wrote:

You also need to push her nose in it, but you may need some help, because they hate it, like they should. Due to them hating it they put up a great fight. If is !!!! or poo do the same, then she will learn.

You are of course joking? That is such an outdated and cruel method of house training I can't believe it is still mentioned. The only thing it is going to achieve is a whole lot more mess - where you've pushed it into the carpet, and where the dog tries to remove it from it's nose. There is no-way that the dog is going to associate the 'punishment' with the fact that it has gone in what is the 'wrong' place.

As Debt Free Chick mentions, you need to clean the area that she keep going in - a solution of biological washing powder is reported to be the best as the enzymes breakdown the odours which attract the dog. Then, restrict access to the dog, ie don't let her upstairs in order to break the habit, and also so that you can keep an eye on her if she is showing signs of needing to 'go'. When she goes outside, praise her for doing so. Take her outside every hour if necessary. Also, see if you can monitor her 'routine', so you know when she's going to need to go.

HTH & Good Luck

Debt_Free_Chick

everythingblogcast wrote:

You also need to push her nose in it, but you may need some help, because they hate it, like they should.

I have to agree with Georgina

georgina wrote:

You are of course joking? That is such an outdated and cruel method of house training I can't believe it is still mentioned.

Firstly, I'm not too sure what message this attempts to send the dog. You discover mess .... you find the dog ... drag it to the spot .... and push its nose in the mess. What is the dog supposed to understand by that action? The result is likely to be a dog who messes in hidden away places, where you can't reach to push its nose in it :rolleyes:

The ONLY way to train a dog not to mess in the house is to catch it in the act - or preferably, just as it's thinking about the act. You can tell by the dog's body language that it's about "to do the business" .... especially as it will be eagerly sniffing out the preferred spot.

Timing is now absolutely critical! The minute the dog looks as if it's going "perform" ... you get a couple of precious seconds before it does so ... that is precisely the time that you distract its attention with a gruff "NO!" in a low voice. If you use the pebbles in a bottle technique, remember that only attracts the dog's attention. You still need to give the verbal "NO!" command.

Remember to praise for good behaviour in a light, higher-pitched voice. If anything, verbal praise should be given in a more excited way - over exaggerate your praise. Underplay the stern stuff. Dogs are both stubborn and sensitive and to overplay the stern words can make the dog very submissive, to the point of fearing you.

Dogs are never, never punished. They don't understand it as they don't have a conscience - and for goodness sake (or the sake of your own sanity) don't make the mistake of thinking like a human when you deal with or train a dog. You must think the way the dog does.

Dogs simply do what they are trained to do - and if it's bad behaviour, they do what they have been allowed to get away with. So, reward good behaviour - and to a dog, verbal praise is a rewards. Better still, accompany it with a tickle under the chin, on the chest or around the ear.

Let the dog know what you don't like by lowering the tone of your voice and giving a short, sharp verbal command. "NO!" or "Leave-it!" or "off!" - it rather depends if you already use those commands for other specific actions.

HTH

everythingblogcast

Debt_Free_Chick wrote:

I have to agree with Georgina



Firstly, I'm not too sure what message this attempts to send the dog. You discover mess .... you find the dog ... drag it to the spot .... and push its nose in the mess. What is the dog supposed to understand by that action? The result is likely to be a dog who messes in hidden away places, where you can't reach to push its nose in it :rolleyes:

The ONLY way to train a dog not to mess in the house is to catch it in the act - or preferably, just as it's thinking about the act. You can tell by the dog's body language that it's about "to do the business" .... especially as it will be eagerly sniffing out the preferred spot.

Timing is now absolutely critical! The minute the dog looks as if it's going "perform" ... you get a couple of precious seconds before it does so ... that is precisely the time that you distract its attention with a gruff "NO!" in a low voice. If you use the pebbles in a bottle technique, remember that only attracts the dog's attention. You still need to give the verbal "NO!" command.

Remember to praise for good behaviour in a light, higher-pitched voice. If anything, verbal praise should be given in a more excited way - over exaggerate your praise. Underplay the stern stuff. Dogs are both stubborn and sensitive and to overplay the stern words can make the dog very submissive, to the point of fearing you.

Dogs are never, never punished. They don't understand it as they don't have a conscience - and for goodness sake (or the sake of your own sanity) don't make the mistake of thinking like a human when you deal with or train a dog. You must think the way the dog does.

Dogs simply do what they are trained to do - and if it's bad behaviour, they do what they have been allowed to get away with. So, reward good behaviour - and to a dog, verbal praise is a rewards. Better still, accompany it with a tickle under the chin, on the chest or around the ear.

Let the dog know what you don't like by lowering the tone of your voice and giving a short, sharp verbal command. "NO!" or "Leave-it!" or "off!" - it rather depends if you already use those commands for other specific actions.

HTH

No its if you let them out for more the 15 minutes then their come back in and 10 minutes later they deside to go to the loo right in front of you, so you have to and I am talking about puppies the same way if your child deside to destory or damage something or steals something you have to do it, you dont want to but if you dont god knows what way they will turn out. This is part of training, remember most people dont like the idea of starting with a puppy so they would go for a older dog 1+years. People who train puppies understand that you have to strick their nose in it. Of course you give them the NOO first few times then you move onto the nose trick. Yes it is horrible to do but if your friends come round and the dog does its business someone you friend may think that you are not clean and allow you dog to go anywhere.

Debt_Free_Chick

everythingblogcast wrote:

No its if you let them out for more the 15 minutes then their come back in and 10 minutes later they deside to go to the loo right in front of you

You need to think why the dog is doing this. If you bring a dog indoors as soon as it's performed, it will learn to "hold" its bladder to prolong the length of time it has to play outside. Or this could be a very submissive dog who messes when stressed - your method of "training" is likely to produce this reaction, as I said in my previous post.

so you have to and I am talking about puppies the same way if your child deside to destory or damage something or steals something you have to do it

What? Rub the child's nose in its own mess?

you dont want to but if you dont god knows what way they will turn out.

The behaviour of dogs and children reflects the way they were trained (or brought up). Your dog is a reflection of your training.

This is part of training, remember most people dont like the idea of starting with a puppy so they would go for a older dog 1+years. People who train puppies understand that you have to strick their nose in it.

Twenty years ago, maybe. Anyone who trains dogs today will tell you NOT to rub a dog's nose in its own mess. It serves no purpose - the dog doesn't learn anything from it - it's simply pointless and cruel.

Put "house training puppy nose" into Google and simply look at the number of hits that tell you NOT to do this.

Of course you give them the NOO first few times then you move onto the nose trick. Yes it is horrible to do but if your friends come round and the dog does its business someone you friend may think that you are not clean and allow you dog to go anywhere.

Sigh .....

WeirdoMagnet

everythingblogcast wrote:

No its if you let them out for more the 15 minutes then their come back in and 10 minutes later they deside to go to the loo right in front of you, so you have to and I am talking about puppies the same way if your child deside to destory or damage something or steals something you have to do it, you dont want to but if you dont god knows what way they will turn out. This is part of training, remember most people dont like the idea of starting with a puppy so they would go for a older dog 1+years. People who train puppies understand that you have to strick their nose in it. Of course you give them the NOO first few times then you move onto the nose trick. Yes it is horrible to do but if your friends come round and the dog does its business someone you friend may think that you are not clean and allow you dog to go anywhere.

You can't just let the puppy/dog out and expect it to go, you have to go with it, and praise it when it does, so it knows it is going in the right place. You can even be more specific and clicker train the dog to go in a particular place.

The majority of puppy owners do not (and should not) house train their dogs in your old fashioned way. It is much quicker, kinder and less messy to teach the dog using positive methods than it is to use your way.

Your comparison of a dog with a child is way off. If a child damages or steals something, you can explain why it is not appropriate. You can not do that with a dog.

lizzie12_2

Have pulled the weeds up in our front garden and got a dirty hand full of........ POO... ych... once I saw a large pile near our gate.... in the dark with the curtaind closed folk are not going to be seen are they..

Washed the pavement down with thick bleach - lady walked past and tutted!!! i did happen to mention that I was washing away someones dog mess that they had not picked up... not another word.

By the way i do like dogs - have three within the close family and do my share of picking up on the regular walks.

Bertville

BobProperty wrote:

Allegedly, and I do NOT condone this behaviour, but the alternative to Step 3 is wrap mess in lots of newspaper, leave on doorstep when owner is in, set light to newspaper, ring doorbell. :eek:

Many years ago a lady 3 doors from us used to let her dog do it outside our gate regularly. My dad did the trick of setting light to it on her doorstep and when she came to the door she stamped all over it to put the flames out :rotfl: :rotfl: .

Best thing was, it did stop her from doing it again although I can't guarantee that it would always be successful.

If you do this, take your video camera then you can send the footage to You've Been Framed and get £250 in true MSE style :money:

everythingblogcast

Debt_Free_Chick wrote:

You need to think why the dog is doing this. If you bring a dog indoors as soon as it's performed, it will learn to "hold" its bladder to prolong the length of time it has to play outside. Or this could be a very submissive dog who messes when stressed - your method of "training" is likely to produce this reaction, as I said in my previous post.



What? Rub the child's nose in its own mess?



The behaviour of dogs and children reflects the way they were trained (or brought up). Your dog is a reflection of your training.



Twenty years ago, maybe. Anyone who trains dogs today will tell you NOT to rub a dog's nose in its own mess. It serves no purpose - the dog doesn't learn anything from it - it's simply pointless and cruel.

Put "house training puppy nose" into Google and simply look at the number of hits that tell you NOT to do this.



Sigh .....

No not rub your childs nose in it.

Can I ask have you trained any dogs lately. And these people train other people dogs and get money. I

ts horrible to do, rubbing the dogs nose in its mess. I wouldn't think of doing it, one of my friends does it and tells me that I should do the same.