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  • geek84
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    Thanks for you reply liney. So, if my previoud employer says we provide in-depth references, then should I not tell my future employers about taking a reference from them (since they will mention that I was dismissed)?

    Thank You.
  • liney
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    geek84 wrote: »
    Thanks for you reply liney. So, if my previoud employer says we provide in-depth references, then should I not tell my future employers about taking a reference from them (since they will mention that I was dismissed)?

    Thank You.

    Do not lie on the application, just don't put a reason for leaving at all. Fill in alternative references and hope they contact those, but do not lie, as you will automatically have an offer withdrawn if you state Redundancy and they contact this ex-employer anyway, and they say Dismissed.
    "On behalf of teachers, I'd like to dedicate this award to Michael Gove and I mean dedicate in the Anglo Saxon sense which means insert roughly into the anus of." My hero, Mr Steer.
  • One thing I would like to add......if you were that lazy etc, why on earth would you then start a course?

    Surely, you have to be motivated to do this and that should show through - if you were as lazy as your previous employer said, then you wouldn't have bothered to start trying to do exams and better yourself!

    Sorry - not much use on any other front - but just to give encouragement!

    Good luck!
  • Annisele
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    One thing I would like to add......if you were that lazy etc, why on earth would you then start a course?

    That's exactly what I thought when I read the OP's post :)

    Starting the course is one thing, but I think that finishing it shows that one of two things must be true: either the OP really was lazy, and being dismissed gave her the appropriate kick such that she is no longer lazy; or she was never lazy in the first place. The second interpretation seems much more likely to me, but neither is 'bad' from the OP's perspective.
  • Don't give a reason for leaving. People naturally move on from jobs so you don't need to explain every move you made. If you really feel you want to put something, why not 'left to persue training'
  • geek84
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    Good Morning Folks

    It's me again (the guy who orgininally posted the problem). Yes, being dismissed did give me the necessary kick start and thus I decided to start this AAT course.

    I am still not sure what to write on an application form when asked the reason for leaving the previous job. Any further advice would be most appreciated.

    Finally, can you suggest how I can turn this dismissal into something positive if an interview brings this subject up?

    Thank you.
  • geek84
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    Good Morning Folks

    following on from Money Puddle's coemmnts, can I really put on an application form that I left to 'pursue other training', rather than saying that I was dismissed?

    Thank You.
  • liney
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    edited 12 November 2010 at 11:42AM
    geek84 wrote: »
    Good Morning Folks

    following on from Money Puddle's coemmnts, can I really put on an application form that I left to 'pursue other training', rather than saying that I was dismissed?

    Thank You.


    You can put whatever you like, however if they approach your past employer who says you were dismissed you will have your offer withdrawn.!

    Don't put anything. If you are interviewed, then explain that you had a personality clash with your Manager who was under pressure from higher level managment to improve performance generally. You feel that their decision wasn't entirely fair, as you felt that the targets were unattainable and as you decided that you would rather not work with the Manager any longer so saw no need to contest it, sohave put your energies into further study and finding a new employer who will support you in this.

    Do not slag off your past employer!
    "On behalf of teachers, I'd like to dedicate this award to Michael Gove and I mean dedicate in the Anglo Saxon sense which means insert roughly into the anus of." My hero, Mr Steer.
  • geek84
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    Thanks very much for your reply.

    This has really lifted me up and motivated me to start applying for jobs again.

    Once again, thanks very much indeed.
  • Personally, you should always tell the truth but perhaps you don't have to be brutally honest on the application form. For instance, I'm guessing in credit control that you had targets to achieve in the amount you collected in a given period.

    Also, as the company had recently been taken over, I've always found that whenever a new manager takes over their standards might not be the same as the previous one.

    You could say on the application form that when the new management team took over you failed to reach the new targets (adding that in your opinion they were very hard to meet) and that was why your contract was terminated. However, your levels of collection were just as good under the previous owners but it wasn't good enough for the new management team.

    I wouldn't advise putting down 'dismissed pending unfair dismissal claim' if it's not true. Also, most prospective employers are likely to run a mile. It's a very competitive world out there after all.

    Finally, if you don't mind me saying, but you appear to be lacking self confidence. Don't put yourself down that your degree was from a poly - I'm sure you worked hard to get it & a degree is a degree.

    Good luck in your job hunt, I hopr you find something soon.
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