Woodburning Stove Advice (And yes, I have been to a shop!)

crphillips

Yeah it is just a recommendation by HETAS.....not a reg. I discussed this with HETAS a few years back. Basically I don't see how using 2 x 30 deg bends from the top of the stove is worse for flow of gases in comparison to using a 90 deg tee from the rear outlet. Also sweeping is much better when using the top outlet.

I try to keep them to 600mm but sometimes it just isn't possible or it will look too bad.

Get yourself some VE cooker off-sets from Specflue. You don't even have to rivet any bends or flue pipe together then. Easy peasy!

Doug_bea

i've just picked up on of these today (They wont let me post the propper link yet) www. schiedel.co.uk/products/residential-steel/single-wall/ in the picture an adjustable bend that will rotate and give you basically any angle you like! Do you normally rivet/screw your flue pipes then or just join with rope/cement? or it depend on what your using? sorry for all the questions!

crphillips

I always rivet them together. Makes them really solid. Essential if lining the flue and sweeping through the stove as the flue system takes a bit of abuse during sweeping so it needs to be well secured. Also stops the fire cement cracking and falling out.

I used the swivelling bends years ago but I thought they looked a bit naff and changed to using standard VE bends. Then moved onto the cooker off-sets. I use the swivelling bends maybe once a year when I can't get anything else to work.

The cooker off-sets are cheaper, look nicer and are less effort to install. Give them a go.

Doug_bea

Wow. i didn't even realise you could get them! and i'm definatly up for the less effort to install option!!! have you got a trade account with specflue? what discount do they give you on them? i payed about £36+ the dreaded for the swivel type. i'm buying my stock at the moment thru MMF. You find any better suppliers? Thanks again!

crphillips

I think specflue are top notch. I can't really disclose my discount from them as I get really good prices and I don't think they'd be too happy with me if I announced it.

I'm not totally focused on price though......Specflue's products, service, delivery and packaging is top notch. I've probably spent around 500k with spec flue over the past 3 years or so and I have only sent back 2 items as damaged. They're gear always arrives perfect and the staff are extremely knowledgeable. No answer machines, no getting put on hold, the person you get on the phone can answer technical, product and account questions......you don't get passed around different departments. Best company I have ever dealt with by a long way. Not just in the stove wold either. Talk to Richard Hiblen and negotiate discounts.

I've been offered liner £3 a metre cheaper. This could save me around 10-15k a year but I stick with specflue due to the quality and the service. Worth the extra in my mind. Specflue work on the same principals we do. More money, better quality rather than cheaper and lower quality.

Best carry this on over PM as it may annoy other users of the forum with us using it to chat.

nomoneytoburn

monkeydog wrote: »

Really? Even at todays gas prices?



:eek:

This is the trouble when you have people fitting stoves. £1100 just to fit a liner? :rotfl:
Would love to know what these regulations are too. Unfortunately it sounds like you've been fed a load of the proverbial, and you took it. Hook, line and sinker.

8m of flue pipe, the cowls, plates etc will set you back around £250. That is for the proper twin walled 318 flexi pipe.

maybe i did not make myself clear.the price was for fitting the stove all the parts and for flu liner.all by a registered installer so it does not need inspecting.so i no it isnt going to burn my house down.this way i saved money on the proverbial,hook,line and also the sinker:T
when you take the view that it takes two fellas to get the liner down the chimney and all the cutting and measuring it takes.plus the fact i do not have to get the council in to inspect wich also saved me money and time.plus how much soot the fella must have got in his eye from looking up my chimney all day.and it did take all day.plus every part the other blogger listed and bird gaurd and the amount of times he was up and down a ladder all day ect ect.1100 was a very good price.the stove also cost about 720.you will have to forgive my spelling as i am holding my baby with one hand and typing with the other

crphillips

Yup. I think it's more than fair for what's involved. Also it would have cost you £150 for BC to sign it off if done yourself. People don't seem to take this into account when moaning about the installation costs.

Bet your glad you got your stove in this weather!