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Woodburning Stove Advice (And yes, I have been to a shop!)

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  • An update on breaking glass of woddburner. Finally got through to dealer and the answer was 'tough' - you bust it you mend it kind of attitude! So, back to square one. He implied that by shelling out £50 for a replacement pane is better than £100 if the outer glass breaks as well!! Cant afford either so I am going to have to chance it.......

    Mrs s
  • Rang the dealer back as I then wanted to know what was covered under guarantee and glass isnt for reasons mentioned before on this thread. At least I know now FOR SURE!!

    Mrs s
  • Here is a picture of the boring bit, as I know this forum has some proper professional stove folk on it. Don't ask me any questions about this side of the operation. Sorry for being a bit girlie about it!!


    finally, I really should do this for Mark & the Salamander Stove people, you can buy a Oh yes - it is an import, but Mark has been involved in the full design & build process. To quote him 'People love iPads and say they are amazing quality - they are from China as well!' for £425 I couldn't find anything to come near it for quality - the Morso would have left me broke, and with Christmas coming up I just couldn't reach that far - plus I LOVE MY HOBBIT!


    Just a shame it wasn't installed properly! there should be at least 600mm of vertical flue pipe off the top of the appliance before any bends!
  • RHYSDAD
    RHYSDAD Posts: 2,346 Forumite
    edited 13 December 2010 at 3:04PM
    I'm seriously thinking of a stove. At present we have an open fire with a kinked, un-lined chimney breast. The draw is superb, so superb in fact that i'm having trouble feeding the damn thing. It's going through my stockpiled seasoned Ash far faster than i'd like!! My room is 20m Squared and the actual fireplace measures (approx) 2'W x 2'H x 1'D. I trust that this cavity is not enough? What are the regs regarding the actual cavity the stove sits in? And would we 'need' the chimney lining or would a register plate and say, a 4' flue, suffice? help please.....
    "Do not use a hatchet to remove a fly from your friend's forehead."

    Chinese Proverb


  • You can knock the Builders opening to as big as the structure will let you, but you need to follow the building reg's they can all be viewed for free online, approved doc j. But all solid fuel needs a 6" 150mm Flue, with some exceptions. That is such a waste burning wood on an open fire, actually burning anything on an open fire is :) you'll be getting at least twice if not three times the amount of heat from anything you burn in a stove!
  • A._Badger
    A._Badger Posts: 5,881 Forumite
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    Doug_bea wrote: »
    You can knock the Builders opening to as big as the structure will let you, but you need to follow the building reg's they can all be viewed for free online, approved doc j. But all solid fuel needs a 6" 150mm Flue, with some exceptions. That is such a waste burning wood on an open fire, actually burning anything on an open fire is :) you'll be getting at least twice if not three times the amount of heat from anything you burn in a stove!

    That's true - but at the cost of the scent, sound and 'presence' of an open fire.

    Stoves, whatever current fashion says, aren't everyone's choice. I've had several over the years but still feel there's a lot to be said for an open fire.
  • A._Badger wrote: »
    That's true - but at the cost of the scent, sound and 'presence' of an open fire.

    Stoves, whatever current fashion says, aren't everyone's choice. I've had several over the years but still feel there's a lot to be said for an open fire.


    Couldn't agree more, sound and presence! as for the scent, not sure i miss that! although you can combine the 2 with something like a jotul F3 which is designed to run with the door open as well :)
  • Doug_bea wrote: »
    Just a shame it wasn't installed properly! there should be at least 600mm of vertical flue pipe off the top of the appliance before any bends!

    The 600mm is only a recommendation and not a reg. I personally would have lowered the height of the fireplace by 12" or so and just used a straight length of flue and kept it central.
  • ixwood
    ixwood Posts: 2,550 Forumite
    So in the end I went down to Salamander Stoves in Newton Abbot.

    I met Mark, one of the designers of the Stove (lovely bloke by the way, endless cups of tea!) I pretty much decided on the spot that I wanted The Hobbit (so cute looking!)

    We chatted about fitting it and he worked out a shopping list of flue components for me that I picked up from www.fluesystems.com

    I took the stove home and started the process of ringing around. I soon found out that nobody could fit it until AFTER CHRISTMAS!!!
    Much begging took place and in the end Mark came over to fit the stove (Bless Him, he is very busy, and said don't put it on the internet that I fit woodburners, I've got enough to do already - ooooops!!)

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    here it is after I just lit it - it draws really well, keeps the place toasty (even though I could have put a bigger burner 'in the hole' this one really keeps us warm, we love it)

    Here is a picture of the boring bit, as I know this forum has some proper professional stove folk on it. Don't ask me any questions about this side of the operation. Sorry for being a bit girlie about it!!

    IMG_0180.JPG

    finally, I really should do this for Mark & the Salamander Stove people, you can buy a Hobbit Stove Here!

    Oh yes - it is an import, but Mark has been involved in the full design & build process. To quote him 'People love iPads and say they are amazing quality - they are from China as well!' for £425 I couldn't find anything to come near it for quality - the Morso would have left me broke, and with Christmas coming up I just couldn't reach that far - plus I LOVE MY HOBBIT!

    This almost reads like an advert to me.....

    Is that you Mark?
  • crphillips wrote: »
    The 600mm is only a recommendation and not a reg. I personally would have lowered the height of the fireplace by 12" or so and just used a straight length of flue and kept it central.
    Hmmm thats odd, my HETAS training manual says there should be 600mm before any bends, and so does another document they published "There shall not be a change of direction in the flue for at least 600 mm from the outlet of a top‑outlet appliance unless the appliance is fan blown." - But having said that i can't find it in the building regulations at all!!! if that was best practise you would think it would be stated in the building regs! Thanks crp That'll definatly make a few installations easier! But i've managed to keep all mine to 600 so far! :)
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