Woodburning Stove Advice (And yes, I have been to a shop!)

crphillips

Fair enough but most people class installation or 'just to fit' as parts and labour......but it could miss-lead to mean labour only. Logically it was never going to be £1100 labour to fit a liner.

Yeah but what i'm meaning is if people were wanting to really save money surely you could just turn your radiators off in other unused rooms and the effect would be the same and even cheaper.

I'm all for wood burners obviously but they're not really any cheaper form of heating.....they're just another form of heating.

Lotus-eater

crphillips wrote: »

It's not actually glass......it's ceramic.....

You learn something every day.

This site has replacement glass for stoves and says a little bit about how brackets can be over tightened and cause the glass to fracture upon expansion.
http://www.forstoveglass.co.uk/stoveglass/Clearview_Replacement_Stove_Glass.html

monkeydog

crphillips wrote: »

Fair enough but most people class installation or 'just to fit' as parts and labour......but it could miss-lead to mean labour only. Logically it was never going to be £1100 labour to fit a liner.

Yeah but what i'm meaning is if people were wanting to really save money surely you could just turn your radiators off in other unused rooms and the effect would be the same and even cheaper.

I'm all for wood burners obviously but they're not really any cheaper form of heating.....they're just another form of heating.

You'd be suprised chap, I had 2 quotes of well over £800 for just the labour to fit a flue pipe :eek: If that is the going rate nowadays, i'd up your prices

It really depends on what it costs for your fuel. I don't know anywhere where I can get free gas, but I know where I can get free wood to burn.

zippychurch

crphillips wrote: »

The Handol 51L is a very nice stove indeed. Smoke exempt too isn't it?

I am not 100% - we are pretty rural so dont have any restrictions but that made me go look and it is is exempt

http://smokecontrol.defra.gov.uk/appliances.php?country=e

very interesting

Mojisola

crphillips wrote: »

I'm not saying you have abused it but your dealing with a product that reaches 400 degrees C or more.....it's not going to be the most robust material in the world. It's not under warranty because if it was everyone would want a free piece of glass everytime it broke. Everyone always says to us 'it just broke'......which i think sometimes it does but most of the time it doesn't.........we've had an Esse 200 in our shop for 8 years and we've never broken the glass and it's used all day every day. They can just break but not often.

mrs-stressed said the glass didn't break - it fell out. As Lotus-eater said, that sounds like a problem with the mountings. It certainly can't do any harm to talk to Clearview.

crphillips

monkeydog wrote: »

You'd be suprised chap, I had 2 quotes of well over £800 for just the labour to fit a flue pipe :eek: If that is the going rate nowadays, i'd up your prices

It really depends on what it costs for your fuel. I don't know anywhere where I can get free gas, but I know where I can get free wood to burn.

Yeah definitely.....if you can get your fuel for free then your laughing although it still takes time to process so you've got to think about whether your time is best spent working to buy firewood or whether your time is best spent collecting and processing your own.......it can be a bit of a hobby whilst out walking the dog also! I know i've brought the odd branch back!

£800 to just install is a bit steep but to be honest most fitters, including myself hate fitting other peoples parts so we they usually put a big price in when the customer is supplying their own bits in an attempt to loose the job.

As for the glass issue......no matter how it was broken i doubt the'll replace it on a 2 year old stove. You may be lucky though and they may give you one if you kick up enough fuss.

MrsCrafty

I paid £450 for installation by a Hetas Registered 30 years experience, chimney sweep. He was here about 5 hours and did a brilliant job. He went onto our roof on his own too, so no labour needed.

mrs-stressed

Mojisola wrote: »

mrs-stressed said the glass didn't break - it fell out. As Lotus-eater said, that sounds like a problem with the mountings. It certainly can't do any harm to talk to Clearview.

After the glass fell out I tried to find out what actually had happened and the glass is actually held in place by four screws onto a bracket thing. Thats it! I then tightened the screws (after the event!!) and they seem firm enough now. What had made them loose in the first place I would like to know. Its not that its a moveable part. Its static. So maybe its been loose since installation. Who knows. I still cant get through to anyone in the know. I do know also that nothing lasts forever but two years for such an expensive investment I would have thought I should have got more mileage than that!!

Mrs s

mrs-stressed

Lotus-eater wrote: »

You learn something every day.

This site has replacement glass for stoves and says a little bit about how brackets can be over tightened and cause the glass to fracture upon expansion.
http://www.forstoveglass.co.uk/stoveglass/Clearview_Replacement_Stove_Glass.html

Thanks LE for that info. Am on it right now. Its cheaper than my 'local' dealer. I was interersted to read that even if you have debris on the glass that can act as a pressure point causing glass to crack. Also the fact that the screws could have been OVER tight could have caused it. Your right - you learn something every day!!

Mrs s

fairy-mother

So in the end I went down to Salamander Stoves in Newton Abbot.

I met Mark, one of the designers of the Stove (lovely bloke by the way, endless cups of tea!) I pretty much decided on the spot that I wanted The Hobbit (so cute looking!)

We chatted about fitting it and he worked out a shopping list of flue components for me that I picked up from www.fluesystems.com

I took the stove home and started the process of ringing around. I soon found out that nobody could fit it until AFTER CHRISTMAS!!!
Much begging took place and in the end Mark came over to fit the stove (Bless Him, he is very busy, and said don't put it on the internet that I fit woodburners, I've got enough to do already - ooooops!!)



here it is after I just lit it - it draws really well, keeps the place toasty (even though I could have put a bigger burner 'in the hole' this one really keeps us warm, we love it)

Here is a picture of the boring bit, as I know this forum has some proper professional stove folk on it. Don't ask me any questions about this side of the operation. Sorry for being a bit girlie about it!!



finally, I really should do this for Mark & the Salamander Stove people, you can buy a Hobbit Stove Here!

Oh yes - it is an import, but Mark has been involved in the full design & build process. To quote him 'People love iPads and say they are amazing quality - they are from China as well!' for £425 I couldn't find anything to come near it for quality - the Morso would have left me broke, and with Christmas coming up I just couldn't reach that far - plus I LOVE MY HOBBIT!